HA Thanks, I did actually have Flemish giants...hence my user name, but I switched over to NZ's this pair I got now, I believe are NZ mixed with FG or a LOP somewere in the mix, because the Bucks ears helicopter? But like someone pointed put, he could have been injured when he was younger...They have the body and temperment of a FG with the size of a NZ. The buck is about 7 lbs, and the doe is around 8 or 9, also they are not fully grown yet, so i think they still have a few more lbs to put on!!Im excited to see how the kits grow out<br /><br />__________ Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:52 am __________<br /><br />The does cage is 2 1/2 feet wide in the front were the door is and 5 ft deep 2 ft high...which seems to be a perfect size for all my does...My Bucks bachelor pad is 4 ft long 2 ft wide 2ft high, so hes doing pretty good for himself also lol