Dood":1y4189x2 said:
Frecs":1y4189x2 said:
And, I'm not sure what you mean by "SF are inconsistent as a breed period". I don't think that is true at all.
I cannot imagine the ones throwing REW, steel and sable can have the proper coat or are producing offspring that are conformationally mirror images of each other.
I was considering Silver Fox instead of AmChins but after hearing the problems people are having with them (and with non-show traits like fertility, milk production and growth) on this forum I'm glad I didn't go that route. I have enough issues with my show line of AmChins.
People on the SF FB page will readily admit that the silvering is not consistent across litters, that's just the way it is in the breed, not an easy thing to control, but there are also obvious problems with fur length and texture.
Fur that is not stand up comes from somewhere other than the SF breed, so even though there was already blue in the gene pool, that gene pool was severely diminished, there are plenty of other things that are in it, sourced from somewhere, as evident in what Dood said, REWs, Torts, Sables, Blue eyes, obvious large white blazes that look distinctly vienna marked. The genetics are damaged, very few people have true, heritage SF. And then no one really knows what the actual crosses were to create those. No one left a recipe for SF, people had to do what they thought was best.
The blues were at some point crossed back and forth with the chocolates, people have gotten lilacs from Meara, more than likely some of those blues she's using have Satin origins.
To get a variety passed is a hard thing, they have to be more perfect than what people actually put on the table for the current variety. If they held to the standard that they hold the presentations to at every show, quite a few of the SF put on the table would not place. They expect perfection.