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i personally dont' think the zinger looks very humane, especially if you were a little off in your aim. i'd prefer wringer or pellet gun myself...
 
You don't aim it, you set it onto the skull with the rabbit on a solid surface and release. No issues with pellets in the skull. No kicking or thrashing. $8 or 10 every few years to replace the bands.
You can miss with the pellet gun easier than the Zinger JMHO
 
3mina":1qvv3d85 said:
You don't aim it, you set it onto the skull with the rabbit on a solid surface and release. No issues with pellets in the skull. No kicking or thrashing. $8 or 10 every few years to replace the bands.
You can miss with the pellet gun easier than the Zinger JMHO

Had a very bad experience with the pellet gun over the summer. Not a miss, but huge loss of power very suddenly. Probably if you are more of a gun person, you wouldn't have the same issues. But personally, if I have to oil the damn thing after every shot to get reliably clean kills, it's not gonna work for me long term.
 
As a firearms owner, would lean toward a gun. but that's just my choice. I think as long as it's humane and fast, any method of dispatch will work. You just have to know what makes you feel comfortable to make it comfortable for you and an easy passing for the rabbit.

Karen
 
Set them in a small pen, put the gun to the back of the head behind and between the ears, aim slightly forward and down, and pull the trigger. These are not wild rabbits. They'll just sit there or maybe look around a bit and force you to adjust your aim a few times before firing. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Even the ones that have not been handled and panicked and escaped my pen make a giant leap and then just sit there not sure what to do next while I scoop them up and return them. You aren't going to get any sport out of it.
 
Possessing the needed strength, I use the cervical dislocation method. I've done it this way since the mid-70's. Properly restrained and quickly positioned on a skinning gambrel, there is little to no flailing around by the animal you're processing.

This is a method that takes some upper-body strength and one that does take some getting used to. But, when mastered, it is efficient and very effective.

I see no sport whatsoever in turning them loose and using archery equipment.....I'm sure, you were only kidding.

grumpy
 
grumpy":2vdd7ojf said:
Possessing the needed strength, I use the cervical dislocation method. I've done it this way since the mid-70's. Properly restrained and quickly positioned on a skinning gambrel, there is little to no flailing around by the animal you're processing.

This is a method that takes some upper-body strength and one that does take some getting used to. But, when mastered, it is efficient and very effective.

I see no sport whatsoever in turning them loose and using archery equipment.....I'm sure, you were only kidding.

grumpy
Thank You, Grumpy! I googled "skinning gambrel" and learned a lot, will be a whole lot easier than using a slip knot, in my cord. The last rooster I processed, actually managed to slip out of the knot, I have some stong, fine chain, that will work well.
 
grumpy":4e1uj4sz said:
Possessing the needed strength, I use the cervical dislocation method. I've done it this way since the mid-70's. Properly restrained and quickly positioned on a skinning gambrel, there is little to no flailing around by the animal you're processing.

This is a method that takes some upper-body strength and one that does take some getting used to. But, when mastered, it is efficient and very effective.

I see no sport whatsoever in turning them loose and using archery equipment.....I'm sure, you were only kidding.

grumpy
I was just kidding :D
 
skysthelimit":29mnq8gb said:
I prefer not to have anything gun like at the house, not even a water gun.

The Zinger is a "bolt gun"...there is no projectile and it is really is a mis-nomer to call it a "gun". It extends a rod at high speed/pressure, that pierces the skull/brain and is retracted back into the tool.

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fishdip":29mnq8gb said:
LOL let them out on the lawn and bow hunt them lol

I don't think this would be a very humane way to dispatch rabbits. We aren't killing them for sport, we are dispatching them quickly and humanely, with the least amount of trauma.....

I see you posted that you were kidding, which is fine. BUT, lets all remember that the posts on this board are able to be read by anyone....not just members. That "joke" could be taken all out of context and used against us.... :|
 
I have used co2 poisoning, rabbit in box hooked up to a co2 canister, takes less then 30 seconds but someone told me that it was cruel an inefficient for animals over two pounds so I stopped. Now its a good solid concussion with 1 blow with what we call "The Bunny Bat", 2 is often not needed, I have also taken the head off with a clever in 1 shot but it scares me a little so I don't do this often.

Plus I cull rabbits for my snakes so no reason to take the head off.

I don't think I could shoot an animal point blank.
 
BlackBunny":9dg97tdt said:
I have used co2 poisoning, rabbit in box hooked up to a co2 canister, takes less then 30 seconds but someone told me that it was cruel an inefficient for animals over two pounds so I stopped.

Did you eat the rabbits, or give them to snakes afterwards. I'm wondering if it would make them more difficult to get the blood out, or possibly ruin some organs?

I did some research on this method, and I only found one study that made the recommendation to not use it on rabbits, although their data showed the same effects for the rabbits as the rats. It seems to me like this conclusion is quite possibly hearsay....however...it seems pretty cost prohibitive if you aren't culling lots of animals.
 
OneAcreFarm":18kyondu said:
skysthelimit":18kyondu said:
I prefer not to have anything gun like at the house, not even a water gun.

The Zinger is a "bolt gun"...there is no projectile and it is really is a mis-nomer to call it a "gun". It extends a rod at high speed/pressure, that pierces the skull/brain and is retracted back into the tool.

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fishdip":18kyondu said:
LOL let them out on the lawn and bow hunt them lol

I don't think this would be a very humane way to dispatch rabbits. We aren't killing them for sport, we are dispatching them quickly and humanely, with the least amount of trauma.....

I see you posted that you were kidding, which is fine. BUT, lets all remember that the posts on this board are able to be read by anyone....not just members. That "joke" could be taken all out of context and used against us.... :|
I posted it in regards to doing it in a way that works for you. Every single rabbit I have ever killed is with a bow. And 99.9% they die very very fast. Only one time did I hit a rabit in the wrong place and I have killed a few 100. I dont think of bow hunting rabit as sport most rabits around me let you get only 5 feet away. I never eat or even use the hide I always sold them to a shop in my area. Plus I dont see how using any sorta gun is differnt then shooting them with a arrow.
 
fishdip":3tkppc8l said:
Plus I dont see how using any sorta gun is differnt then shooting them with a arrow.
To someone that is not used to using a bow, it can seem hit or miss. The way you phrased it, it did not come across as your being an experienced bow hunter, it came across as you learning bow hunting and using rabbits as target practice, with a high potetial of missing, at least 1/2 of the time. No matter what you may have meant, to those of us that are not used to bows, it came across as if you were still learning.
 
fishdip":39lcg4ht said:
LOL let them out on the lawn and bow hunt them lol
Also, to many, missing one time, is a traumatic experience. Many make sure that they are in an inclosed area, close quarters, and try to make sure there is 'no' chance of a miss!
- Using a bow, when the rabbit is in a small, enclosed pen - but for those that advocate breaking the neck or skull, for a fast kill, they can still take exception to the bow. Also for those that sell commercially.
- Check on USDA approved methods of killing livestock
http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/pubs/Rabbi ... wanson.htm
 
OneAcreFarm":3ci9z5s5 said:
skysthelimit":3ci9z5s5 said:
I prefer not to have anything gun like at the house, not even a water gun.

The Zinger is a "bolt gun"...there is no projectile and it is really is a mis-nomer to call it a "gun". It extends a rod at high speed/pressure, that pierces the skull/brain and is retracted back into the tool.


I've seen it before on the website. Just saying why I'm not interested in using a gun, although it may seem like the most efficient way for most.
 
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