White snotty nose, what is it and what drug to use?

[Secuono]

Got two rabbits from a member here, buck seems fine. But the baby doe started sneezing halfway home. She's got a white snotty nose now...ugh...
What do I shoot her up with to get rid of this? Pics in a few. This should be in the Hopping Mad section list I have...*sigh*<br /><br />__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:41 pm __________<br /><br />

 

[Piper]

I would put them in cages for at least a week, with just hay to begin with. It may be an allergy to the green plants, if so, you may lose her by leaving her there, start her on plants a bit at a time. I am still wondering about your plants. You have had rabbits die on pasture and you does do not seem to give babies.

 

[Secuono]

These rabbits were on grass and the sneezing started in the car TODAY.

Those babies were lost in the crazy heat we had.

 

[ollitos]

Oh no!!!! None of them have had wet noses or sneezing at all. But that's why I have them in quarantine.. to wait it out and see. But I was out with them this morning and they all looked fine.

I'm supposed to go down your way the weekend of the 29th. If the sneezing is not resolved, we'll work it out.

 

[Secuono]

Yea, they were all fine and looking good. She didn't start anything until I was half way home, but you weren't there, so I couldn't turn around and ask you about it. :/

Buck is next to her, should I find her a different pen and put her away in a corner away from him as well? He's fine, huge and fluffy, but no sneezing or anything.

 

[Piper]

ChickiesnBunnies - do you use one of those antibiotic, hand washes - that you do not have to wash off?

 

[ollitos]

I would definitely keep her away from everyone until you figure it out. Since he was exposed, I'd keep him away from everyone and from her.

Sorry about not being there. Greg and I had a big fight and I left and came home to my house. I haven't heard from him since I left. It just wasn't a good morning on the farm.

 

[Secuono]

ChickiesnBunnies - do you use one of those antibiotic, hand washes - that you do not have to wash off?

I haven't even touched the rabbits themselves, flipped them out of the crates and into the pens. Haven't been in the critter yard other than to put them in and take the pics in the other thread. And I do have hand sanitizer.<br /><br />__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:22 pm __________<br /><br />Lol, my avatar really seems to fit how I feel lately. =D
Face palm, crap, praying, nausea, stress and all that...she fits those expressions. Don't need smileys anymore, got my avatar for it.

 

[Piper]

Do not touch the bunnies, with hand sanitizer, on your hands. It can kill the stomach flora, and potentially kill the rabbits. For rabbits, that stuff is strong! Some perfumes, some house cleaners, and essential oils, can do the same thing.

 

[MaggieJ]

Do you have those air freshener thingies in your car? Do you use leather conditioner on the dash or seats? I'm guessing it is an allergy to something in the car, compounded by the stress of the move. But do keep them both in isolation until you are sure.

 

[ladysown]

sorry...but white snot for me... is a death sentence. even if that rabbit is from someone I know. I do inform them immediately and tell them what I'm planning on doing (death) and if they don't like that...to get the rabbit back from me as soon as possible.

For a young rabbit to start sneezing and blowing snot on the way home...I woulda turned around. I wouldn't keep the buck.

And yes...I'm THAT alarmed by white snot.

Fact is, they might not know they have snot carriers in their herd. They may have no clue about it. So letting them know about it and why it concerns you is an important animal husbandry item. Hopefully things can be made right.

One buys and sells animals always knowing that there is some risk involved.

 

[Secuono]

My car hasn't been washed or anything since I bought it 4+ years ago.
Buck thinks my part of VA is too hot...had to wet his ears down. Both are isolated from each other and my other rabbits now.

 

[MaggieJ]

Ladysown, I tend to agree with you, but since the rabbits are isolated, it is reasonable to wait a bit and see.

I am certain that Ollitos would not knowingly sell rabbits that are ill and since the symptoms appeared on the ride home, I think it may be an allergic reaction. Under those circumstances, I would wait a bit before making a decision.

 

[Secuono]

I don't blame her, I blame the breeder that sold her the rabbits.
Buck seems nice, though. Ugly and hairy, but huge compared to my Cali buck. Though, my SF doe may be even bigger than him. =D
Hopefully the doe will get over it, there's no place for her anyway, she's tiny and wouldn't mesh well with my escapee group.<br /><br />__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:03 pm __________<br /><br />Any drugs at all I can give her?
Found this site, but no idea what you guys think.
http://www.zinnsrabbitfarm.com/rabbit_health.htm

 

[Nyctra]

Maybe you drove through a cloud of something she's allergic to?
I know MY allergies go haywire just by passing by certain things... X__x

 

[Mary Ann's Rabbitry]

well, I wouldnt keep the rabbit at all. I bought a few rabbits from a breeder that i always bought from and this batch of rabbits was a shocker for me. I didnt even get one rabbit out of the crate and i hear a rattle sound and sneezing. My heart dropped i knew what it was.He was with a sibling . I looked at the rabbit nose and sure enought. I put that rabbit down right there and i took the other one that it was with in another cage away from everyone. I had her for a week now and this morning she was showing signs of the same thing. SO i put her down to. I called up the breeder and told him. He offered my money back.

If she is still sneezing in a week time. Dont keep it. YOu are putting everyone at risk in your rabbitry. It might of been fine at her house but the stress of moving it. That means it isnt going to be a good breeder off the bat. It stress out to easy .

 

[ollitos]

Ugh. I have 11 other rabbits from this breeder. I'm really hoping it was an allergy.

 

[Secuono]

Me too, it would be such a shame!
Her nose is dried up now, but not pretty.
Put the buck in an open pen in another corner. He was too skiddish in the tractor.
I need to buy a rabbit brush, so much shedding going on. =D

 

[ladysown]

that's the thing with pasturella though... Stress causes problems.

This young doe found the stress of the drive a problem. Ergo...she started to blow snot. for me: SNOT = Death. No waiting it out, no let's see what might come to be. She'd simply immediately be gone, or in such isolation as to await her previous owner taking her home again.

Rabbits that are allergic don't blow white snot.

I am also quite willing to believe that the breeder didn't knowingly sell an ill rabbit. That is the biggest problem with pasturella. Rabbits OFTEN will show no signs of issues. Then you stress them, and voila... snot. This is why you keep the rabbits that don't show signs of it, and if you get a doe that shows no signs but her offspring for the most do.. you cull the doe.

One can't always tell who will stress. This young doe did. Therefore she has a problem, and therefore is not a rabbit to keep for breeding purposes.

And even if for some an allergic reaction, still not a rabbit to use for breeding purposes, one doesn't want to breed those types of issues into one's herd. it doesn't make sense from a good animal husbandry point of view. A rabbit that gets ill from stress... is not a rabbit it keep for the longevity of your herd.

If you honestly think LONG TERM for the good of your herd it makes the hard decisions easier. it really does.

 

[skysthelimit]

It might of been fine at her house but the stress of moving it. That means it isnt going to be a good breeder off the bat. It stress out to easy.

The P word or not, that's what it means to me.

__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:19 pm __________

I agree with Ladysown. I do all kinds of insane things to my rabbits-- let dogs in the rabbitry, breed back to back, switch feeds, dust the barn with DE, lime, clean tubs with vinegar, bleach, pinesol, change food too frequently, run out of food for a week, change to different types of hay, weaned early, switched up cages, taken kits to school. I'm always trying something to kill the flies that won't kill my buns. I've pretty much put them under quite a bit of stress, trying to work out kinks in my best practices for this rabbitry. So far, none of the adult rabbits have so much as sneezed, and the kits I have lost to anything other than cold on the wire, were all from the same doe, and I just culled her. I brought back a 4 month old holland lop 6 hrs from PA, and who knows how long she was in the car from NJ, she was at the show, handed off to who knows what, spent a few days in the carrier because I had no place to put her. Not a problem from her. She is only holland doe to have live litters.
Stress is not a good reason to blow white snot.