What do you call this

[countryhorse]

That is adorable!!

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

I have a chinchilla FG and may have found a black lion head. Think that would work ok? Im willing to try and see what I get. lol

 

[garden lady]

I have a chinchilla FG and may have found a black lion head. Think that would work ok? Im willing to try and see what I get. lol

Gray with a black mane, black with a gray mane, gray with a black head and gray mane, black with a gray head and black mane. :lol:

 

[phillinley]

The only thing more epic than a giant lionhead is if you could somehow genetically get them to have only the males have manes like real lions. True bunny lions

 

[SarahMelisse]

I don't know why, but I find them off putting. Feel free to beat me with a stick.

 

[garden lady]

I don't know why, but I find them off putting. Feel free to beat me with a stick.

The more I look at them, I kind of feel the same. I wonder if they act more lionhead or FM.

 

[ZRabbits]

With the DM gene you can make any rabbit have a mane. Doesn't mean that they will keep them as adults once they molt.

Sorry, think they are sad looking. Why screw up a perfectly beautiful Flemish and a Sweet Lion head, which by the way, should be 2-3 lbs like a Netherland and make these funky kits. For laughs and giggles?

I love my Flemish and I love my Lion heads. Never would I do that and make such a funky kit.

Karen

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

Yes I would try it for the fun of it. Are not most breeds a mix of more than one breed that someone tried crossing to see what would happen. There is nothing wrong with that.

The Lionhead rabbit originated in Belgium. It is reported to have been produced by breeders trying to breed a long coated dwarf rabbit by crossing a miniature Swiss Fox and a Belgian dwarf. Though there are many, many other reports similar to this, for example that the lionhead has been bred from a Netherland Dwarf and a Jersey Wooly. The Lionhead seemed to have been more popular than the long coated dwarf, and so breeders carried on this trend in breeding them intentionally, and so came what we know today as the Lionhead rabbit.

I don't see what it hurts to try.

 

[ZRabbits]

Yes I would try it for the fun of it. Are not most breeds a mix of more than one breed that someone tried crossing to see what would happen. There is nothing wrong with that.

The Lionhead rabbit originated in Belgium. It is reported to have been produced by breeders trying to breed a long coated dwarf rabbit by crossing a miniature Swiss Fox and a Belgian dwarf. Though there are many, many other reports similar to this, for example that the lionhead has been bred from a Netherland Dwarf and a Jersey Wooly. The Lionhead seemed to have been more popular than the long coated dwarf, and so breeders carried on this trend in breeding them intentionally, and so came what we know today as the Lionhead rabbit.

I don't see what it hurts to try.

No, not a Jersey Woolie, an Angora and Netherland. Read the studies of how the Lion head originated here (very different from the European Lion head) in the United States. Nothing was proven until the finding of a hidden gene known as the "DM". And that was in the States back in the 90's. This is what is being represented and being worked to be recognized under ARBA standards. Jersey Woolie is a breed by itself that was created in New Jersey.

Every rabbit breed can be traced back to Europe in one way or another.

If you want try it, go ahead. Knock your socks off. But hopefully you will be honest and not pass these "experiments" off to true Lion head breeders who worked hard to get the SOP where it is today. That's the problem with the Lion head. Too many experiments screwing up their ARBA acceptance.

Just like Rex breeders or Satin breeders, Mini-Rexes or Mini-lops, there are breeders who love the Lion Head and are working hard to make this a ARBA sanctioned rabbit. Sorry, if this sounds snarky, but I love this breed and want it to be recognized. This sweet rabbit deserves the recognition from the Rabbit World.

Karen

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

I got that information of Wikipedia. I was just making the point that most Rabbit breeds are the result of a cross.
I find it interesting that they are a result of the same cross of breeds as the jersey wooly. And some could say that the Lionhead breeder or the jersey wooly breeder were screwing up the ND breed. So Who's right?

I am a very honest person and would never try to pass them off as pure Lionheads. I more than likely wouldn't even sell or give them away. We raise meat mutts in colonies and I think it would be fun to make one for my kids. Thats it.

I surely didn't mean to offend you or any other lionhead breeder. I just think they are neat and my kids would love it. Thats it.

 

[Bad Habit]

I'll admit, when I had my rescue Flemish, I was hoping for a doe so I could breed her back to Dobby XD.

No, I wouldn't have passed them off as pure. And I do love lionheads, and am trying to strengthen my herd and breed to the SOP, but seriously... I just kept thinking of little lionheads with their poofy manes and fuzzy butts, but mentally photoshopping Flemish ears onto them. Which would be too cute. But, now that others are going to do it, I can live vicariously!!

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

I may do it. Just for the fun of it, to see how it turns out. A woman that lives near me offered me her Lionhead buck for free. He is three years old and black so it could work. <br /><br />__________ Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:24 pm __________<br /><br />I just talked to the woman and I am picking up the bunny tomorrow. Funny thing is she bought a pony from me last spring. Now I get a bunny from her.

 

[Demamma]

My kids have a lionhead French lop cross. I think they are ugly but they are cool looking in a way. I call it a lop flop

 

[phillinley]

If you want try it, go ahead. Knock your socks off. But hopefully you will be honest and not pass these "experiments" off to true Lion head breeders who worked hard to get the SOP where it is today. That's the problem with the Lion head. Too many experiments screwing up their ARBA acceptance.

I'm all for breed purity, but come on. The Lion Head is not a recognized breed because the CoD holders keep screwing up at presentation. How does someone crossing a lionhead with a flemish hurt the Lion Head's acceptance more than the top breeders themselves going in (or not even showing up) for presentation at the convention and consistently failing? They're on their fourth CoD and that one's one fail away from losing it as well to the next person in line.

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

Hey that looks like I said that. lol

 

[phillinley]

Hey that looks like I said that. lol

Yea I keep screwing up the quotes Sorry

Always a learning curve on every new forum

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

I avoid those because I can't figure them out either. :lol:

 

[akane]

It's no different than crossing any other breed. How many half dwarf rabbits are out there and the netherland breeders have no trouble getting their rabbits to show and demanding high prices. What someone uninvolved in showing does really has no impact on the breeders attempts since breeders should know better than to buy those rabbits. It's their own fault if they are failing.

 

[tm_bunnyloft]

I don't want to upset anyone. I just think it will be a fun little project to pass the winter. Most breeds today are a cross of one thing or another. Who knows. Maybe I'll get a COD one day too.

Well any ways......

 

[andyva]

What would happen if you crossed a FG with an angora. Could you get the same results without having a small rabbit in the equation?