Think my bred doe is sick

[paintrider89]

Yesterday, I noticed my doe with a pretty wet nose. She was breathing hard, and it was hot part of the day. This doe is known to play in water dish. I gave hee fresh water, a frozen bottle, when I did night check she was dry, relaxed and ready for her dinner greens. Today, not as hot, but I saw her we again. At nighttime check she is still wet, and sneezing, and cleaning her nose and face a lot.

She has been in the same cage, away from everyone since she came back from breeding. I have another doe who went there to, it's where I got the rabbits, and I have never seen snotty noses or herd sneezes. My other do, no symptoms. No sneezes or Smitty noses anywhere else. I have this bunny for about two months. She has been icolated since I brought her home. Bred 3 weeks ago today. Thoughts?

 

[Dood]

Not good.

If the the 'wetness' coming from her nose is clear it could be just a mild sinus irritation. She may have snorted up a seed hull or dust. Hopefully she can clear it out before any stuff starts growing on it and causes a bacterial infection.

If the wetness is white, creamy, yellowish or green you've got an infection. You could try and treat with antibiotics but because of a rabbits poor blood circulation in the sinus cavity they often have small pockets of infection that persist after treatment and that can take over if the rabbit becomes stressed. If the infection is bad enough there could be permanent damage to the lungs and she will be more prone to future infections.

Without seeing the rabbit we cannot judge so the call is yours. If she has an infection and she was mine I'd cull to avoid it speading. If you're confident you can maintain the quarantined then keep her .

 

[Cottie]

I have a few rabbits that I will occasionally find with wet faces. These seem to be the ones who take flying leaps into their water bowls when I fill them. I don't know how she does it, but when Minnow is let to graze, she will soak her whole face - mouth to forehead - then clean like crazy.

I don't know about sneezing, though. I've only heard one sneeze out of Minnow, when she jammed her whole head into the ground, and I'm pretty sure she got a blade of grass up her nose.

Fingers crossed your doe gets better quick.

 

[paintrider89]

The sneezing seems to be stress related. If I stick my hand in her cage to touch her she starts sneezing.

It was clear the last two days. If it goes any other color I will likely cull. Just a bummer to loose the kits.

Edit.
During feeding she has a dry nose, is more than ready for food, and only a small sneeze when I touched her (washed my hands after).
Gonna keep an eye on her the next couple of days and see where this goes.

 

[MamaSheepdog]

I would suggest looking up her nostrils to check for a foreign body. Even if you don't see anything, you might want to put a couple of drops of olive oil into each nostril.

I have never done this to a rabbit, but here in CA we have these nasty grass head seeds (awns) called "foxtails" which sometimes get up dog's noses. Once in, they can not travel backwards because of their spines, so sneezing will not get them out. Surgery is often the only option for removal. I have successfully gotten them to pass by squirting olive oil (or vegetable oil) into the nostrils.

It may not help, but it can't really hurt her, either.

Good luck with your doe. I hope it is nothing serious. :clover:

 

[Cottie]

here in CA we have these nasty grass head seeds (awns) called "foxtails" which sometimes get up dog's noses.

We have those here, too. Foxtail is edible and actually very nutritious. opcorn:

 

[MamaSheepdog]

here in CA we have these nasty grass head seeds (awns) called "foxtails" which sometimes get up dog's noses.

We have those here, too. Foxtail is edible and actually very nutritious. opcorn:

Hmm. I wonder if we are talking about the same thing? I should post the Latin name- except I don't know it- because when we get vets from other states they are often baffled and have no idea what a foxtail is. :?

The horses do eat the stuff, but it is best when green, otherwise the foxtails get stuck in their lips where they meet the gums.

 

[Cottie]

here in CA we have these nasty grass head seeds (awns) called "foxtails" which sometimes get up dog's noses.

We have those here, too. Foxtail is edible and actually very nutritious. opcorn:

Hmm. I wonder if we are talking about the same thing? I should post the Latin name- except I don't know it- because when we get vets from other states they are often baffled and have no idea what a foxtail is. :?

The horses do eat the stuff, but it is best when green, otherwise the foxtails get stuck in their lips where they meet the gums.

http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/ipc/weedinfo/setaria.htm

My kids ate some one day and I took it to the Master Gardener. He said all the members of Setaria he was aware of in the US are edible. It's even cultivated in other parts of the world as a millet. It's typically the stickies surrounding the grain that get caught on lips (or noses or ears or...).

Sorry to hijack.

 

[MamaSheepdog]

Nope, different plant. Your version looks much more like a fox's tail than ours does.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.45754984 ... 9&pid=15.1

Hah! It is Hordeum murinum ssp. leporinum, also known as Hare Barley. It is found in most states west of the Mississippi.

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/WEEDS/hare_barley.html

 

[AmysMacdog]

So sorry to hear this Paintrider, I hope she gets better soon and she has a seed or something up her nose. Sending prayers your way for her.

 

[paintrider89]

Nope, different plant. Your version looks much more like a fox's tail than ours does.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.45754984 ... 9&pid=15.1

Hah! It is Hordeum murinum ssp. leporinum, also known as Hare Barley. It is found in most states west of the Mississippi.

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/WEEDS/hare_barley.html

When have both here. The fist is what we call cheat grass..idk why. I have neither in my yard or in my hay. I've fed this hay to my horses for years now from the same pace. I've had vet bills from bad hay. I will check nostrels thos evening.

 

[Secuono]

If she's on her last week, that's the most stressful and dangerous time to be having hot weather. Keep an eye on her, she can over heat in no time now. Wet her ears down a few times a day on warm days.

 

[paintrider89]

If she's on her last week, that's the most stressful and dangerous time to be having hot weather. Keep an eye on her, she can over heat in no time now. Wet her ears down a few times a day on warm days.

I do that with all of them on hot days. But I will pay extra attention to her.

 

[JessiL]

The "true" cheatgrass out west is Bromus tectorum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromus_tectorum. Yes, you should have it in Idaho, paintrider, we've got tons of it here in Nevada. You can recognize it by the way the seed heads nod over when drying/dry. Definitely edible when green (it's a winter annual), not palatable when dry, and the seed heads do indeed get stuck in dogs' noses and hikers' socks.

Back to the rabbit - good luck. Hopefully it's just one of those things that will pass without affecting the other rabbits.

-Jessi

 

[paintrider89]

I am starting to think it's a mixture of heat and stress. I can watch her for HOURS and never hear or see a sneeze. But when I put my hands onto the cage to feel around on her she starts sneezing. I discovers this today, she grunts as well. She should be due to kindle in 8 due, and when she begs for food, she looks like she's got kits in there. I don't know, this is a normally friendly doe. I can still pet her face, which is good. Perhaps being pregnant is stressing her.

It was in the 80's here the last two days or so. No wet nose or paws at all, and she was quite active, bouncing around cage when we take dogs to kennel or back into the house, or begging when we were outside in the garden. She is a smart little girl for sure

My two new does however have started sneezing though. However they have No contact at all with first doe, I have had these girls less than a week. They came from a place that doesn't offer hay however, and I now have them eating hay, we also have a dirt driveway. And I wonder if they may be getting dusty.

Keeping an eye on everyone. But thus far no actual shot, no one has lost appitite, no icky eyes, everyone is breathing correct. So I think, and pray I am simply dealing with heat, stress and allergy.<br /><br />__________ Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:48 am __________<br /><br />

The "true" cheatgrass out west is Bromus tectorum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromus_tectorum. Yes, you should have it in Idaho, paintrider, we've got tons of it here in Nevada. You can recognize it by the way the seed heads nod over when drying/dry. Definitely edible when green (it's a winter annual), not palatable when dry, and the seed heads do indeed get stuck in dogs' noses and hikers' socks.

Back to the rabbit - good luck. Hopefully it's just one of those things that will pass without affecting the other rabbits.

-Jessi

It gets in dogs ears to. Hate this stuff. I could live without it or goatheads :evil: