trinityoaks
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I have to make one small correction. Not EVERY breed has an SOP, because there are breeds that are not recognized by ARBA.
trinityoaks":3qi7r8mx said:I have to make one small correction. Not EVERY breed has an SOP, because there are breeds that are not recognized by ARBA.
trinityoaks":230ku7c3 said:I have to make one small correction. Not EVERY breed has an SOP, because there are breeds that are not recognized by ARBA.
You're right about that, but some blanket statements have been made in this thread about ALL rabbits, and I wanted to clarify.skysthelimit":3qzf64m1 said:True, but since we are talking about what is show quality, only those breeds that are showable or have working standards are the focus here.
skysthelimit":z8i0gtr0 said:trinityoaks":z8i0gtr0 said:I have to make one small correction. Not EVERY breed has an SOP, because there are breeds that are not recognized by ARBA.
True, but since we are talking about what is show quality, only those breeds that are showable or have working standards are the focus here. Lion heads are looking for acceptance, and they have a working standard, and can be shown at some shows.
skysthelimit":3kbabnlb said:The acceptance process is not dependent on local shows. The rabbits and COD holders must appear at Nationals for three consecutive years. At this point REW, Black and Tort are at the 2nd try at 2nd showing, and the other varieties are not eligible yet. Either the breedings or the people are not consistent. Then it becomes up to the discretion of local clubs and I assume the Lionhead clubs who make the sanctions whether or not they show at local shows.
ZRabbits":3jruick3 said:Yep, you are correct regarding what's going on with the Lion head acceptance. The clubs are focusing on Black, Torts, REW's. Actually sticking to Black Family. (Sable, Chestnut, Orange, Seal, Silver Marten) Tri, harli, are considered odd colors or exception to the rule of Black won't be considered until the acceptance of Black. Not that some Lion Head breeders aren't experimenting with the Harli and Tri. I've read in the Lion Head Fourth District, a breeder is working on tri.
Karen
-HRanchito":tcmzq4nx said:I know there is a difference here, and I've skirted the issue by giving into the rabbitosis and deciding to keep my WHOLE LITTER and probably my whole brand new litter too, but how do you decide what's show quality? Obviously, the closer to the SoP, the better, but you can't only show perfect rabbits.
Let's say I sold a rabbit with no DQ's as show quality, would that be unethical? Where do you draw the line with your rabbits and how do you make that decision? How do you deal with your "show quality" being at a different level from someone else's "show quality?"
AnnClaire":ibnhb6hm said:Satin,
I so agree with you and others who advocate that the conformation (structure) of the breed is paramont to having a show quality vs. brood quality. In the fiber breeds, yes, density and composition of coat are part of the standard, but if the bone structure or conformation isn't there, then 3-, 5-, 7-inches of fiber aren't going to put the points back in the conformation column. But, I understand that does happen and I am struggling with which juniors to take to Wichita.
I have several with the doe's fault of pointed hips and her very good density of fiber. Some have the buck's fault of not-as-dense fiber with his very good conformation. I will probably take all with good fiber and good conformation just to get a professional assessment so I can decide which to keep for breeding.
The issue I have is that the doe was sold as "show quality" and I had to have her transported without having the chance to put my hands on her. With the prominent fault of the pointed hips, IMHO this doe should never have been listed as "show quality," but rather as "brood quality with the following fault: pointed hips."
Of course, I cannot afford a Betty Chou angora, but since hers don't blow their coats, I am not sure I really want one either
AnnClaire":35gsbym9 said:put my hands on the bun.
Dreamerz":yywp2wxn said:*side note* I also like the term "Show Potential" over show quality, especially when talking about a younger rabbit. A lot can happen between 8 wks (youngest selling age) & 4 or 5 months (possible first show age) that may cause it to not be showable. I had this happen with a puppy I sold once as Show Quality & a judge recommended "Show Potential" on all further contracts.
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