peanut vs runt

[Tiny Buns]

So here we are at day 2 with runt? I can't say it looks disproportionate in any way because it is simply so micro mini.


Does this look like a peanut or just a runt?


thanks

**that massive appendage is my thumb

 

[macksmom98]

Peanuts often have bulging eyes, deformed hind quarters, and never act well. It's kind of hard to tell from this picture. The hind quarters look a little funny to me but it might be the angle. The ears look extra tiny too. But is this baby acting like the others? Jumpy, some energy, eating? From what I have read true peanuts seem to sort of wither away, and just don't act well. I would say if it's acting normal to leave it alone and see.....

 

[Tiny Buns]

Definitely popping around like the others but has some issues with eating. I can't be sure if this is because it is just so weak and tiny that it takes an incredible amount of effort to latch on and eat, or if it just doesn't have enough brain cells to keep itself alive.

I am a bit of a softie for the runts of any species but would cull it if it appeared to be withering or suffering in any way.

I guess I'm doing the wait and see approach but never having had a peanut (yet) I don't know if it's an all efforts are futile or a 50/50 that it actually might make it.

 

[macksmom98]

I have never had one myself either, but only having Holland Lops I have done a lot of research in preparation, because it likely will happen one day. They never survive, and there is nothing you can do to help them. Your approach is of corse your decision, but I would do the same thing as long as it's not suffering. I would probably try to get it some alone feedings with mom, at least once a day just to allow it to eat on it's own timeframe without siblings pushing their way around. We have had a large size difference and that really helped out runt, so in my opinion it can't hurt. Best of luck-update us when you have new info and hopefully you will get some more comments and opinions on this

 

[Tiny Buns]

Starting to feel it's a peanut. Failure to thrive is the phrase that comes to mind when I saw it this morning. Even with extra help, it just seems to be withering. Oh well, I imagine a peanut is par for the course when breeding dwarfs.

We'll see what happens when my Hollands start producing. At least now I know what it looks like and what to expect.

Thanks all

 

[macksmom98]

Awe I'm sorry to hear that it's not doing well. I understand that not all dwarf rabbits are true dwarfs, and may not carry the gene, so it's possible you won't see it with a different doe or buck or with your Hollands.

 

[Dood]

Definitely a peanut/double dwarf as those ears are WAY too small, his hind leg doesn't look right and the dome to his skull seems extreme

Many are so deformed they die and are absorbed in-utero hence the smaller litters associated with the dwarf breeds and some look *almost* normal but eventually fade

 

[Tiny Buns]

Definitely a peanut/double dwarf as those ears are WAY too small, his hind leg doesn't look right and the dome to his skull seems extreme

Many are so deformed they die and are absorbed in-utero hence the smaller litters associated with the dwarf breeds and some look *almost* normal but eventually fade

I guess it will be easier to identify once we're at this longer and have a few more peanuts. I don't find the ears look small because the whole creature is super small. And I wondered about the legs but figured it was because of the smallness and maybe underdeveloped. I will know for next time. Sadly (or predictably) the little one is definitely withering away. Thank you for posting--it helps <br /><br /> -- Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:33 am -- <br /><br />

Awe I'm sorry to hear that it's not doing well. I understand that not all dwarf rabbits are true dwarfs, and may not carry the gene, so it's possible you won't see it with a different doe or buck or with your Hollands.

It's unfortunate but I guess par for the course. Too bad because I thought the little guy was cute. Sigh. Well at least there are still a few normal sized ones. I just wish there was an easier way to tell (for me) if it's a peanut vs a runt. I just find that excess smallness makes me give it the benefit of the doubt. How could anything we full or well developed on something so incredibly tiny?

 

[alforddm]

Definitely a peanut/double dwarf as those ears are WAY too small, his hind leg doesn't look right and the dome to his skull seems extreme

I hadn't even noticed the domed head but after you pointed it out I could see it.

 

[macksmom98]

I am still learning too, and for me the ears caught my attn right away. The legs didn't look right to me, or the head but I thought maybe it was just the picture angle (not too confident)......the thing that makes it tough is that they don't all come out looking vastly different. And it varies from peanut to peanut, so while there are some things to look for they won't all look the same. When I googled pics it made mention of bulging eyes, and the it showed them protruding much more than your little ones were. So I was hoping maybe the rest would be ok.....BTW-you said you also have Hollands but what kind are these?

 

[ladysown]

THAT is a peanut.

Had one this summer that was in-between a peanut and a runt. Bulging head but normal hind quarters. Lived to almost two weeks old. Normally they disappear by day three unless you kill them first (I normally do that as small critters starving to death isn't my thing).

 

[Tiny Buns]

Ya it was weird because I honestly felt that the eyes weren't THAT bulgy and the whole thing was so teensy that I couldn't confidently say the legs were misshapen. Anyhow, next time I have a super micro mini I'll keep an eye out. This little one did so so for the first day and started to shrivel and fail the next so it went pretty fast visually and was clear I needed to dispatch him.

PS....I have Hollands and Netherlands. That little guy was from my Netherland litter.

 

[macksmom98]

These stories are always sad, where are the pics of the rest of this litter?

 

[Tiny Buns]

I might want to keep the smoke pearl

As newborns, they all looked goofy and equally bulgy in the eyes.....