I saw them at Convention and they were gorgeous! I don't know anyone around here that breeds them, but I would probably join the ARBA facebook group to get some feelers out their for some. Don't be afraid to ask for pictures and opinions of potential purchases. I always tell people the things I do and do not like. I don't sell show quality often because I am very nick picky, but I when I do, I want the buyer to know what they will be getting. I expect the same when I go out shopping for stock