Is this snuffles?? New doe

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Reids Rabbits

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I got three new rabbits last night. this morning I went out to check on them and notice one of my NZ reds has a snotty nose. I have never had a rabbit with snot so I was hoping to get some opinions. Does she have the snuffles? It is white not clear. I'll try and get a picture. I also bought her sister, and her sister shows no signs of snot.
 
I'm really not sure but I'd move that rabbit as far from all the others as possible, and keep the others you bought at the same time VERY separated. Hope it turns out to be nothing but better safe than sorry!
 
Sure sounds like snuffles! Strict isolation while you decide what to do. The thing about pasteurella (snuffles) is that it is often there but dormant until stress (such as a move) brings it to the surface. Whole rabbitries may be carriers but show no symptoms until badly stressed. If you expose your other rabbits to this one, they may not have immunity to this strain of snuffles. Please see this thread: my-pasteurella-journey-t12109.html
 
So went back out and took a picture. There no longer was white snot??!! just a little damp looking around the nose.

What do you think?
She is a bit scared too, being a new place and all.
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Strict quarantine and isolated, down wind, from your other buns. Do this new group last and snotty last in this new group and wash everything that goes near the new rabbits.

Wait and see, if she doesn't get it bad, with scar tissue in her lungs, she may do fine.
 
i would cull immediately. I wouldn't even bother with isolation.

but that's my approach to things like snot. just cull don't mess with it.

you may wish to tell the breeder you got them from of the issue.
 
Ladysown and a couple of others on here have lost entire herds, or close to it, from snuffles and related illnesses.

Culling, it is true, would be the safest thing.

If you do not cull, do follow very careful quarantine procedure - both with the other two new rabbits and separately with her.
 
Well. Went out again this afternoon and she had white snot again. I can only assume it's te snuffle as why else would she have white snot??

Well the plan was to bred her. So if I quarentine her and it goes away, then what? Doesn't it say with her? Also her sister has been with her. What the chances she will get it?
Oh I am so not happy. Scared really. We will cull but not until I'm sure .. So confused.<br /><br />__________ Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:48 pm __________<br /><br />Also, if we cull, is the meat still good? For dogs raw, or can it spread? Don't want it to be a total waste!
 
meat is good. Is okay for dogs (toss the internals including the lungs). DO NOT feed raw to cats...cats apparently can have it cross to them and you just don't want to go there. Is also okay for people well cooked. :)

The sister may or may not be a problem. That's the thing with pasturella...it can affect one but not another.

KEEP the sister quarantined until after she has her first litter. If your buck is amenable I'd drop a towel over her back for breeding purposes (or use a disposable buck which is the safer bet). keep her quarantined until her kits are past weaning. IF the kits snot or sneeze, then toss the whole bunch out on their keesters.

if after all that she is fine and her kits are fine then go woot woot!!!
 
Sounds like snuffles, then. You want resilient rabbits, so culling is really the best thing to do.

If her sister doesn't have it already, she might be resistant. You want that. If she finishes quarantine with flying colors, she should do well for you.

Ladysown has excellent advice. I didn't think about keeping her quarantined until her first kits are weaned. That's very good, as the kits could be the source of infection for your herd.
 
so there is a chance she will be okay. What would the recommend time be to see if it goes away? I think her sister might have it now, her nose was wet this evening :(<br /><br />__________ Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:42 pm __________<br /><br />Oh stress :( so sad as they are beautiful. I'll have to keep an eye on the sister to see if she gets white snot too.
 
There's not a whole lot of chance for the one doe to end up being okay. :( It's her sister we were talking about.

Wet nose could just be from drinking water, so try not to panic... though it's easy to. Practice good quarantine procedure!!! Tend the new rabbits last, and if you do not cull the one doe, she should be last of all. Wash, probably change your clothes, before tending your established rabbits again.

__________ Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 pm __________

While some rabbits recover from snuffles, the infection is always there, waiting to reemerge. And the rabbit is way more likely to have repeat issues with it... and any time it does, your other rabbits are in danger.

Does she have matting on the inside of her front legs? This is often put together with the white snot to help diagnose snuffles.

While it's possible it's something else, the chances of it being contagious are high. It doesn't sound like allergies. It sounds like infection. Some of these things can wipe out a rabbitry so fast, it's usually better to cull for it.

That said, I do have a doe that started sneezing right after we moved. Occasionally, I'd see something that looked like a small white string around her nose. No matting, acting completely normal, I thought she had gotten hay up her nose. Nobody else ever caught anything.

Fast forward to two weeks ago, when my son noticed something on her shoulder. It was an abscess. I immediately thought of the sneezing. We did surgery on her and cleaned it out, and started her on Pen G Procaine shots. It has healed up very well. Interesting side effect? No more sneezing. So... it was an infection, and just manifested itself in the abscess as well. I did put my other rabbits at risk by not culling her, and I am very blessed to still have rabbits.

She is a pet, not a producer. This is another consideration. I will not have her genetics or immunity issues passed on.

I still recommend you cull the doe with the snot. :(
 
I also do not know what the infection that doe was. It was not snuffles, as snuffles progresses as a respiratory disease, and it becomes difficult for the rabbit to breathe.
 
Having lost 4 rabbits myself this fall, pretty much devastating my holland project, I would cull. :(
 
Snuffles is not only seen as a Respiratory Disease/Symptom:

PASTEURELLA [SNUFFLES]
Many breeders believe that all rabbits carry the Pasteurella multocidia organism in their respiratory tract. This is not true! Though some may indeed carry the infection, there are many which do not. {This is why I breed toward disease resistance. If any rabbit shows signs of infection they are culled] Pasturella manifests itself in many forms. The most common is what is referred to as snuffles. This is a purulent discharge from the nose. Should you see matting on the inside front paws you can most assuredly blame Pasteurella.

Symptoms

The first signs of the disease are sneezing and discharge from the nose and or eyes. Not every sneeze is indicative of the presents of Pasteurella. A rabbit may sneeze when it gets water up it's nose while drinking, or it may have an allergy to something in the area. Hay dust, colognes etc. These sneezes will have a clear watery discharge or none at all. If there is persistant sneezing with matting of the inside of the front paws and a colored discharge from the nose or eyes it is safe to assume the rabbit has a Pasteurella infection.. This is an extremely contagious disease for which there is NO CURE! There are treatments which will mask the symptoms but the rabbit remains contagious. Any rabbit which you treat places your whole herd at risk of infection. The Pasteurella germ can be carried on your clothing and person. It is of extreme importance that you change your clothes and wash theroughly before going near any other rabbits. Isolate any sick rabbit immediately and care for the herd first and the isolated animal last. Disinfect it's cage and any other equipment the rabbit came in contact with.

TREATMENTS
Rabbits can be treated with a number of antibiotics but to this point none have been successful in bringing about a cure. The best treatment for Pasteurella is prevention. Through A.R.B.A. [American Rabbit Breeders Association] they are trying to develop a cure for snuffles, but it is still a long way off. For now, strict sanitation, good ventilation and culling will go a long way in helping to prevent the spread of this dreaded disease.

PREVENTION:
Ventilation is important in snuffles control since both humidity an ammonia are involved in the spread and growth of this condition. Ammonia is present in rabbit urine, having it build up in the atmosphere has a bad effect on both humans and rabbits. If you can smell it while walking through your rabbitry, think how it is effecting your rabbits. By removing the urine and feces from the rabbitry you are decreasing the amount of ammonia in the surrounding area.
Ottersatin. :eek:ldtimer:
 
If you bought the rabbits from a breeder, they should be told about the problem and ask them what they think you should do about it. This is not just your problem.
 
Beekeeper10":x1kry772 said:
If you bought the rabbits from a breeder, they should be told about the problem and ask them what they think you should do about it. This is not just your problem.
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You need to contact the breeder immediately and let them know. They should offer to replace her or refund your money. I would quarantine them ALL away from your other rabbits. If the sister NEVER shows symptoms, then she is good to go. Anything that shows symptoms should be removed from your herd by either returning to the breeder or dispatching. The meat is fine to cook and eat, but don't feed it raw to cats or dogs. They can get Pasteurellosis too.
 

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