Is this a Smoke Pearl?

[LittleFluffyBunnies]

This is my very first rabbit, an ND buck named Gandalf the Grey. He is going to be my breeding male, but I can't figure out his color. When I bought him, I thought he was blue, but now I think he is a smoke pearl, or maybe a siamese sable? He is around 4 months old. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

I know his ears are long, but he is the best quality buck I could find in my area.

 

[Dood]

Definitely a blue and I'd say shaded so yes he is a smoke Pearl

He is quite cute but in all the pictures his hips look extreamly pinched which is a severe defect and in females it is the main cause of death due to kits getting stuck, I would not use him as a herd sire

 

[LittleFluffyBunnies]

Thanks! How far apart should his hips be if they were right? When I feel him, his hips are close together, but I thought most rabbits had that. He is mostly quite stocky. I am just starting out and only have him and one doe, and I can't get any more right now. The doe's hips are not pinched, would it still be okay? I am not breeding for show, just pets. I wouldn't keep any of his offspring for breeding. He is about 2 pounds, I think. I really kind of need him, I have no more bucks!

Oh, and I just noticed, I did just before taking that pic squish him together just a bit to try and pose him, he hates posing and turns all stiff Most of the time he looks rounder

Also, he was attacked by my dog at 5 or 6 weeks of age. His back or hips were injured, and he was partially paralyzed. But he healed incredibly! Now there is now sign of injury!

Thanks so much for the help!

 

[BlueHaven]

If you hold your buck upside down and look at how his legs come out of his body it will tell you.
HIs hind legs should point straight up towards his head like this l l not like a v like this \ / with toes pointing out.
Unless you think his pelvis was crushed in the dog attack he will throw this in his babies.
The disaster this might cause your doe would not be worth the risk for me.
This is not something you can always see when the buck is sitting down.
With your buck it is extreme, as it stick out like a sore thumb. HE is very cute but I would not breed him.

 

[LittleFluffyBunnies]

I think his legs were like that in the pic because I had just pushed his back end forward right before taking it. I held him upside down and his feet were pointing straight up, and I watched him sitting in his hutch and his feet were straight forward. Does that mean he is fine?

 

[Bad Habit]

He's also either vm or has a scar on his nose.

 

[LittleFluffyBunnies]

His nose does have a white spot, but since I am not breeding for show I don't mind.

 

[Dood]

In the photo of his belly his feet are NOT parallel but make a "V" shape

Do not breed him

There is no guarantee that whoever you sell his offspring to wont have an accidental litter which could mean a slow painful death for his daughters and granddaughters

 

[TF3]

It is hard to hear this feedback when you have your hopes pinned in this rabbit.
But these folks are very knowledgeable and care about rabbits-- they are saying that this is serious.
Even if breeding for pets, you need to be breeding sound, healthy animals.
This little guy has serious issues that would prevent this happening.

I'm pretty sure any breeder here would not have sold him for a breeding animal or likely even as a pet.
He doesn't carry good ND type (you can't tell what he is at a glance).
I had the same thing happen to me with my first rabbit... She was sold as purebred but is nowhere near the breed. It is a rude awakening!

This guy may be all you have, but if you think about your goals (assuming it isn't just to get rich with rabbits LOL) he likely won't get you there.

Can you join some ND pages on Facebook?
You might be surprised at how close someone is or who will transport rabbits for you!

This forum is an amazing place to learn!
I hope you stick around!

 

[LittleFluffyBunnies]

I know, but I am in South Africa, and this is the best you can get where I live.

In the pic I know he looks bad, but I promise in real life his legs look nothing like that. I can send another pic to show you. He was sticking them out because he hates posing. That is why he wasn't really posing

And I am not breeding for show, just pets. I know what a nice ND looks like, but here, all Dwarfs look like this. Thanks for all of the help, I really appreciate it.

 

[Prisma]

You may want to take another pic so that we can really see, cause it does look like his legs are bad enough but it would indeed in danger the quality and very life of offspring may have. Sometimes slick flooring will make them sprawl but need to be really sure. Sadly it is true, a Netherland Dwarf even for pet here would be different. How old is he?

 

[LittleFluffyBunnies]

Hi everyone!

I am sorry I was touchy about the subject of Gandalf. I understand you all are trying to help, thank you. I guess I was just a bit upset because I used to live in the United States, and after coming to know many different breeds, I became interested in breeding.

When I moved to South Africa, I started to look where I could get my first pet and maybe breeding rabbit. But the breeders of nice breeds were very far away, the rabbits were very expensive, and shipping way too expensive. In my area there are only mutts and Dwarfs that look nothing like a good ND. So I got Gandalf as a pet, and he is the sweetest rabbit I have ever personally met. He follows me around and hops into my lap to cuddle, and licks me until I am soggy! I then thought it might be a fun project to get a doe and raise a few litters from the two. I can't even keep any more, so all babies would be sold to the best homes I can find. I am not planning on starting a rabbitry, just letting my pets have a few litters. I am prepared to find homes, and I try to keep my rabbits healthy and happy. If that means not breeding, I will be okay. I don't want to endanger any rabbit's life.

I put my rabbits on a normal surface, and waited for them to sit normally to take a pic, which took a while because Gandalf prefers to never sit still!