I need some help or just to type out thoughts. I'd like to get some amchin and cross them with some american sable to improve the type and coat of american sables that has been lost by breeding to cali. I'm not sure what to get for sables though. I need at least one that is actually sable colored to get both the sable and himi gene for making more sables. How do I cross that in and then back out though? I could get a seal buck, cross a sable doe to an amchin buck, and then cross the offspring to the seal buck for the most sables but I will get seal and self chin which will both look black. I could just butcher everything that looks black. If I bred my amchin x sable to a sable buck I would get all sorts of chin (self, normal, light) and either seals and sables or sables and himis. So confusing... Suggestions on the best way to get quality sables out of this? Butchering the extra is not an issue because their first purpose is dog food and second is experimenting with the breed. I don't want to have too many in the yard though. It could invite complaints from the neighbors and I don't want animal control looking too closely in to all the animals I'm keeping.
combining sable and chinchilla
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Chinchilla is dominant to sable and himi so it is easy to eliminate and can only hide in blacks or dark seals - it can also be hard to tell a shaded agouti and a chin 
If fur is your goal then pick the best and worry about getting the colour second.
If fur is your goal then pick the best and worry about getting the colour second.
I tried to apply color and coat to some of the suggested linebreeding method charts but it really didn't work. I'm actually thinking of doing 1 seal doe, 1 pointed white doe, and a trio of amchin. Cross to the seal doe if both breeds are pure would give me AaBBchdchlDDEE which is easy to get sable back out of by breeding to the pointed white. Anything not sable is dog food. I'm not entirely sure where to take it after that. It would depend on what I have for good rollback coats at that time. I could keep 1 or 2 bucks from that mix and cross to the amchin does and then partial siblings together for american sable colors but then I'm kind of stuck without bringing in a new american sable buck. Maybe if I got an unrelated american sable buck to breed the amchin does and use the result from that to breed with the result from the amchin buck and american sable does. Getting 3 generations of just american sable colors and keep a good rollback coat could be complicated. I'd like to shorten up the shoulders as well. They would be closer to the commercial type standard instead of the longer shoulders often found on cali or NZ bred for meat.
