So the babies that I thought were blacks are changing to GTS. It's not really a surprise, other than they are 7wks. Is it normal for them to start getting the gold so late? There maybe one that is not turning steel.
Blacks changing to GTS.
- Thread starter ek.blair
- Start date
Help Support Rabbit Talk Forum:
My heaviest steels usually start getting the tipping around 2 weeks. The lighter ones around 5-6 weeks.
It is very normal for steel to vary.
My harlequin steels start out lightly ticked as babies but shed to black by 6 weeks and some kits born black lighten up to almost chestnut
This wide variation is likely why so few breeds accept steel as a showable colour as it can make it very difficult to tell self based rabbits from agouti
My harlequin steels start out lightly ticked as babies but shed to black by 6 weeks and some kits born black lighten up to almost chestnut
This wide variation is likely why so few breeds accept steel as a showable colour as it can make it very difficult to tell self based rabbits from agouti
How can I tell if these are self based or agouti? They all looked black till about a week ago and the others in the litter are chestnut.
They are agouti because there is obvious ticking - if they stayed black you may have sold them as self black and when bred to a true self black the kits might have come out as a lighter version of steel and a TO buyer
OH... OK! I get it, so the one in the litter that doesn't look to be getting any ticking could be a self based steel... They are all destined for FC anyway, but I am trying to learn as much as I can
It could be a self black that is hiding steel
or since you also have chestnuts in the litter it could be a self black with normal extension
or it could be a very dark agouti based steel that mimics a self black
or since you also have chestnuts in the litter it could be a self black with normal extension
or it could be a very dark agouti based steel that mimics a self black
Yeah, steel can come in whenever it feels like it.
or not at all :razz:
Another reason few breeds accept steel, once it's crossed with self...there is NO WAY to visually tell an all black agouti steel who's pretending to be self from a self who's just carrying steel.
I've noticed every breed that accepts both steel and self colors has the two muddled, and a similar problem in a few breed who DON'T.
or not at all :razz:
Another reason few breeds accept steel, once it's crossed with self...there is NO WAY to visually tell an all black agouti steel who's pretending to be self from a self who's just carrying steel.
I've noticed every breed that accepts both steel and self colors has the two muddled, and a similar problem in a few breed who DON'T.
No kidding eh!
My "black" himi Califorian buck had two steel genes and never fathered a self black on my does :shock:
And back in the 80's I aquired a Netherland dwarf buck who was supposed to be a seal to breed to my Siamese sable and sable point ND does but ended up fathering chestnuts! I didnt know much about colour genes back then but after an hour in the reference section of the library i managed to figure out that he was agouti based and had a steel gene
skysthelimit
Well-known member
I'm still waiting to see if my supposed black Angora is really a steel...
