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So as most of you know my Maizy had 9 kits 4 weeks ago and she has done such a wonderful job with them. Unfortunately I went outside to feed all the rabbits last night and found 1 in the middle of the cage all by its lonesome. I figured that was fine, sometimes they don't mind sitting by themselves. I went ahead and filled up the food and water for everyone and she still hadn't moved. Her eyes were a bit groggy so I picked her up and sat her down. When I did this, she fell over on her side and just kind of flopped there like she was trying to get the energy to get back on her feet but just couldn't. I actually felt around on her this time to see what might be the problem and found that she was nothing but fur and bones. Uh oh! All this was, of course, right before we get ready to leave for New Years with my brother.... :roll:

I run her inside, knowing she needs to eat and probably drink. Even though all the kits are 4 weeks and eating pellets and drinking water, (along with the milk from momma,) she just didn't have the strength to get her own. I brought momma in too and sat her on my lap on her back and put the kit on top of her. She didn't even have enough energy to nurse.

So, remembering my chicken medic training from the army, :mrgreen: I took some water and mixed it with sugar, put it in a dropper syringe and put a few drops on her nose. The gates were opened!!! She wanted to suck that thing dry. Ok, good. Huston, we have progress.

I put her on Maizy again but still nothing. So I put a drop of the sugar water on Maizy's nipple and put the kit next to that. She latched! Aren't I smart :p The end....

Nothing came out of the tit. :cry: I figure Maizy had just finished feeding her other kits and hadn't reproduced anything yet. I don't think it's Maizy's fault though. She a wonderful mom but what can you expect when your food goes from pellets to fodder/hay back to pellets in a months time? (Fodder was molded so wasn't left with a choice.) I don't think Maizy could produce enough milk like she had all the time before having her diet thrown in chaos.

Ok, well, she is 4 weeks old and capable of eating pellets and drinking water on her own. Time for her to start making an effort here. I brought in some pellets, crushed them into crumble, mixed them with sugar water let them soak. I then took said syringe and sucked up a few drops. (Wasn't much since, even though the crumble was mushy, it was still too large for the syringe.)

After doing this a few times she seemed to have a bit more energy so I took some of the dry crumble in my hand and hand fed her a few. She took to it, albeit, very small. It was a sign that she had enough energy now to do this on her own.

We don't have a cage or anything for the inside, and I didn't want to put her back outside where she would have to fight for her food when she barely had enough energy now to stand so I put the kit in a cardboard box with a bowl of water and some food and hay. I also put some oats in there, just in case. I figured it wouldn't hurt anything...I hope. I was worried about the bowl of water though. For one, I thought she might spill it and it soak through to my hardwood floor. Yes, call me mean but I spend much time on these floors and try everything I can to keep them looking good. Another reason I was worried was because I wasn't sure if she would know to drink out of it since she's used to the ball bearing waters. I took my chances though and was pleasantly surprised that she drank half of it when I returned the next year.

I think she is out of the woods now but I also believe that without assistance she won't make it. So my plan right now is to go out and bring mommy in and try to nurse her this morning since rabbit milk is far more fattening than pellets, hay and oats. Is there anything else that I can do to help this rabbit along? Thanks for reading and sorry for it being soooo long.
 
get some orange flavored Gatorade into her-- it will replace electrolytes. Mix a tsp of Corn syrup in a quart of water for her to drink-- better than Corn syrup would be blackstrap molassas Spraying Gatorade on hay will help encourage the nibbling of the hay. Soak any whole grains-- makes them easier to chew and digest, as well as ensures water intake..
 
Thanks frosted. I'll get the corn syrup in the water right away. I've noticed that she has been doing some nibbling on the hay in there and hasn't really left the pellets that are in there which I take as a good thing. I will also soak the oats as well. That might help her to eat them as I don't really think she has touched them too much. Another good sign that I see is that she has formed droppings and not diarrhea. She also peed on my wife which makes me want to keep her.
 
Put a green garbage bag under her box to protect your floors.

I use old-fashioned kitchen oatmeal - the large flake kind - for kits needing a boost. You can soak it with warm water or goat's milk if the kit is having trouble with dry food. I usually add a pinch of brown sugar (tiny pinch!) as an attractant. A drop of corn syrup or blackstrap would also work.
 
Do you have any probiotics to give her? I would also give her a hot water bottle to snuggle against, or if she is up to it, bring another kit in to keep her company.

mystang89":35vfq5p0 said:
She also peed on my wife which makes me want to keep her.

You are so-o-o BAD! :nono: Just you wait until I have a talk with your wife!

Is that one of the criteria for choosing which kids to keep? :? Has the new baby peed on her yet?
 
I agree with the orange gatorade. It seems to be their favorite flavor, and induces them to drink more. Good luck with this bunny.
 
MaggieJ":i48fuog7 said:
Put a green garbage bag under her box to protect your floors.
I use old-fashioned kitchen oatmeal - the large flake kind - for kits needing a boost.

Sometimes it takes an outside view to give that simple idea. Thanks Maggie. The bag will do the trick. As for the oatmeal, I believe that is the same kind I have. I just looked down into the box and he seems to be really enjoying the oatmeal very much. He will go eat other things besides the bowl of oatmeal...right?

MamaSheepdog":i48fuog7 said:
Is that one of the criteria for choosing which kids to keep? :? Has the new baby peed on her yet?

Naw, not a criteria, just a perk :) The latest addition hasn't pee'd on her yet but has got her with projectile poop.

Also, I don't have any probiotics to give to her but will probably go out tomorrow and get some. It's probably one of those things that I need again sometime in the future.
 
mystang89":v0gfzzqu said:
As for the oatmeal, I believe that is the same kind I have. I just looked down into the box and he seems to be really enjoying the oatmeal very much. He will go eat other things besides the bowl of oatmeal...right?

You mentioned he is nibbling hay so I'd think he will go on to other things. You might want to make sure he has a small amount of pellets if this is what he is going to be eating in future. That way you can phase in the pellets and phase out the oatmeal over a period of time.
 
MaggieJ":2ep447ar said:
mystang89":2ep447ar said:
As for the oatmeal, I believe that is the same kind I have. I just looked down into the box and he seems to be really enjoying the oatmeal very much. He will go eat other things besides the bowl of oatmeal...right?

You mentioned he is nibbling hay so I'd think he will go on to other things. You might want to make sure he has a small amount of pellets if this is what he is going to be eating in future. That way you can phase in the pellets and phase out the oatmeal over a period of time.

The pellets is what they will be on until my next batch of fodder comes up. So in about 5 days times. Hopefully, if this fodder doesn't have mold, I will begin again to integrate that and phase out the pellets. If I take out the pellet should I leave in the oats?

As of now I do have a small amount of pellets in there for him. And there is good news...besides the fact he is still alive ---- I can't already tell that he is actually starting to get meat on his bones.

Thanks everyone for the help.<br /><br />__________ Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:16 pm __________<br /><br />Just wanted to update on the kit. She is definitely gaining weight and it's enough for me to be comfortable putting her back in with all her siblings and Maizy. I'm still going to keep an eye on her just to be sure though.

Thanks again for the suggestions.
 
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