A first for me. Filling out a pedigree.

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grumpy

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A rabbit pedigree that is..... When I had homing pigeons, I filled out pedigrees
by the hundreds. I never considered doing so with "meat-rabbits". But, it was
an interesting experience and gave me a different perspective of the rabbits
in the barn. I must say that although I've got "a-bunch" of rabbits, they come
from a relative few individuals. Six to be exact. Three to draw it down finer.

I had a gentleman contact me a few weeks ago wanting to buy several does
and a buck for the beginnings of a meat rabbit herd. He was quite specific in
what his wants and desires were. More so than any previous buyers I've
had dealings with. Luckily, I was able to come real close to what he required.
While picking and considering "those-four-individual-rabbits" for this person,
I realized he was making a 7-8 hour round trip. To me, that's a bunch of driving.
It made the choice-process even more critical because I wanted him to feel
his travel time was worth the efforts he put into seeking me out and making
the arrangements that far in advance.

It took two or three days putting together what I felt would be a complete
package for a beginning meat-rabbit operation. Two maiden does bred their
first time to my stock. A younger doe breedable within a couple of months.
And finally a young buck that would work well with the three does being sold.

It was with this "mindset" that I felt the stock should be pedigreed giving all
of the pertinent information concerning their history. Down to how many kits
were in each candidate's litter the time they were born. Their weanling weights,
buck to doe ratio's within the litter, and so on. I realized something I hadn't
considered before::: Pedigrees are a lot of work!!! LOL.

On time, Saturday morning at 8:00 a.m. he arrived. We chatted and had a
good visit for a short amount of time before he paid for the stock and headed
back home. Sure hope he likes what he bought and that they work well for him.
He's raised rabbits most of his life but mostly for show. He wanted a strain,
or family, if you will based strictly upon performance and weight production.
I think they'll work good for him.

Grumpy.
 
I agree with Joe, I would love to buy rabbits from you.

Last lady I got rabbits from was dishonest, I feel she took advantage of me because I was inexperienced (sill am, but I'm getting lots wiser), the buck she sold me wasn't even worthy of being brood quality, and he wouldn't make a very good pet either. The doe's ears are a bit long and she doesn't have a complete pedigree, so if I don't like her babies she's going to freezer camp.
 
I have to hand write my pedigree's ..... Currently I don't have weights nor litter sizes for the G's and GG's ... but it can be time consuming.
More often than not around here people don't care about the pedigree , seems most are just pet buyers (Life in the big city) but I've had a few that did ask for the peds.

I really need to get a program for it ....
 
grumpy if I lived within 2 days driving distance of you I'd be begging you to sell me some of your stock. You've done all the hard work already! Hopefully that guy knows what a great opportunity he's gotten!
 
Thanks everyone,

I suppose my main intent was to emphasize the importance of offering
quality stock. Regardless whether it is for meat production or the show pen,
good rabbits aren't that easy to come by. Excellent rabbits are even tougher
to locate, let alone purchase.

For those that doubt what I'm saying, just look at the number of folks that
enter the hobby, then become easily frustrated by their lack of success, then
quit.

"Why?" you ask. The answer is simple......lousy stock to start with. Everyone,
and I mean everyone, assumes that rabbits are rabbits are rabbits. Nothing
could be farther from the truth. Whether it's meat production stock. Or, stock
for the show pen. Quality stock is difficult to find.

Most folks new to the hobby begin exactly "bass-ackwards". They go to the
local auction and buy their "breeding-stock".........CHEAP!!! LOL. It don't work
that way!! They end up with someone else's junk and headaches and become
frustrated and bow out before they even get started good.

It takes "hard-headedness=determination" to be even partially successful
raising rabbits on a regular basis. And that's with decent stock to begin with.
Thousands have tried and thousands have failed because they started off on
the wrong foot. That's one of the reasons I get cages so darned cheap. Folks
are fed-up and want out believing it's all their fault. When in actuality it's got
nothing to do with them and everything to do with they way they tried.

I've preached and preached to those that would listen......one word.
Patience.....patience.....patience. Most will listen, most will ignore it.
Thinking they "know-better" than a voice of experience. It's frustrating at
times, but I practice what I preach...I must have "patience" as well, with those
that are beginning. Knowing fully well what they will do and what will occur.

I've offered advice to very many folks. I've "mentored" a handful and they've
been successful. Those folks make my efforts......worthwhile. Then.....every
once in a while, I'll have a gentleman like I described call and make clear
what he wants and desires. I'm glad I can help.

Grumpy.
 
I got lucky and ran into OneAcreFarm .... and brought home fantastic rabbits to start with. It almost felt like cheating!!
 
Ramjet":3icaauom said:
I got lucky and ran into OneAcreFarm .... and brought home fantastic rabbits to start with. It almost felt like cheating!!


:D :D :D :D It sure makes a difference doesn't it Ramjet. You started off
on the right foot.

That initial step getting your breeding stock makes a world of difference.
Again, I go back to the old axiom of "rabbits are rabbits." Which we both
know isn't exactly the truth. Either you were very lucky or very intuitive
when you located OneAcreFarm. I believe it was more of the latter than the former.

Taking the time to seek out a good rabbit breeder is critical in the success
or failure of your rabbit raising experience.

BTW: Here's the site I got my pedigree forms off of.

http://www.admani.com/Rabbit/Rabbit%20Pedigree.pdf

grumpy
 
Grumpy has hit all those nails squarely on their heads !!!

it is almost like watching a train wreck happening in slow motion... when one sees newcomers buying "cheap" stock... then posting all the troubles they are having...then the sudden sell out as they quit rabbits. It happens over and over... sometimes in short order... sometimes it takes a few years.

Patience and a willingness to Listen and Learn..... it never ends. :)
 
Random Rabbit":3oxel116 said:
Grumpy has hit all those nails squarely on their heads !!!

it is almost like watching a train wreck happening in slow motion... when one sees newcomers buying "cheap" stock... then posting all the troubles they are having...then the sudden sell out as they quit rabbits. It happens over and over... sometimes in short order... sometimes it takes a few years.

Patience and a willingness to Listen and Learn..... it never ends. :)


Amen to that, RR.

The highlighted red is a good point of interest.

This interesting road we all travel called "raising-rabbits" is much better
traveled by a breeder's willingness and patience to gently guide newcomers
along their way. I've helped everyone who's asked for my input. Spent
numerous hours visiting with prospective hobbyist's as they ask questions
that I've answered hundreds of times in other circumstances. Always, I
inwardly smile at the similarities between past and present inquiries. They
are repetitive but still need to be answered for those asking the questions.

I've oftentimes given away better rabbits than I would sell. Those "special"
youngsters that have that certain "shine-in-their-eye" I can readily see. I
always tell the recipient to keep a watchful eye on their gift and let me know
how it does for them. This small gesture gives a novice great incentive to
take special pains to do the job right. I always assure a buyer that if a
rabbit, "doesn't work out", I'll replace it without question. The cost of a
rabbit is small compared to the success of a beginning hobbyist.

grumpy
 
grumpy":ynap382x said:
Ramjet":ynap382x said:
I got lucky and ran into OneAcreFarm .... and brought home fantastic rabbits to start with. It almost felt like cheating!!


:D :D :D :D It sure makes a difference doesn't it Ramjet. You started off
on the right foot.

That initial step getting your breeding stock makes a world of difference.
Again, I go back to the old axiom of "rabbits are rabbits." Which we both
know isn't exactly the truth. Either you were very lucky or very intuitive
when you located OneAcreFarm. I believe it was more of the latter than the former.

Taking the time to seek out a good rabbit breeder is critical in the success
or failure of your rabbit raising experience.

BTW: Here's the site I got my pedigree forms off of.

http://www.admani.com/Rabbit/Rabbit%20Pedigree.pdf

grumpy


I was just lucky .... even after doing loads of research I was pretty clueless when I drove up to her place to get the beginnings of my herd. I had one "pet" rabbit some 40 years ago as a kid ....
I had narrowed my choice of breeds down to Silver Fox & Rex .... there are Zero SF breeders within 500 miles of me and OAF was the only Rex breeder I could find in the entire state of Texas. That made the choice simple.

I call that dumb luck!

Thanks for that pedigree link , will make filling them out much easier in the future. I had done them by hand prior .... and didn't always get it on one page which was kinda messy.
 

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