It's posing as a bad mini lop
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Susie570
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I've mostly heard that once they lop, they don't go back up. :shrug:
I don't know though??
That's strange....
I don't know though??
That's strange....
When they don't quite lop or lop one ear in a breed that really shouldn't have lop it does generally go back up. My checkered crosses had huge ears and sometimes the juniors in the heat would mostly lop an ear and have a second airplane ear. Both ears lopped that far I'm not sure. It would depend if it's genetic.
akane":25u4ihnz said:
No injuries, ear mites, or known health problems. :?
He's never been wet, so water wouldn't be a factor, ears look good inside.
We've had some temp swings, but the rest of the litter is normal.
Only the one kit I wanted to keep decided to do something weird. :wall:
It is the result of crossing lines back together...so hidden recessive may be expressing themselves.
I have some NZ does who have lop ears - they were born on a really hot summer in a really hot barn and those ears just out grew their base. At least that's my thought on it. Their ears have NEVER stood. None of their kits (3 litters each of 6-10 kits by a NZ buck who had weak ears as a youngster) have had lop ears though. not a one.
If it helps, these guys have proportionately small and usually quite sturdy ears.
He's really cute though....
Looks like he has a really wide ear base?
Looks like he has a really wide ear base?
alforddm":1gfuu2cb said:
I'd have thought it was pinched or narrow, to causes the ears to flare out instead of hanging down??
It doesn't matter though, since it would be silly to introduce anything like this to a lop gene pool.
Although I WAS looking for a meat buck to breed with Mucky, to test my theory on the inheritance of certain genes she carries. So far breeding v-lop bucks to meat does has led to wonky oversized ears and a lot of helicopter effect, but otherwise healthy kits with no swollen lymph nodes.
Every single one of those kits was eaten though, non ever survived to contribute genes to my lines.
And with this kit being a lynx, there is no question as to who the father might have been. It was the one I bred her to, the same buck who threw all my lynx kits.
If I cross this guy with Mucky, she can finally have another litter (she loves being a mom) and I'll be able to test to see if the lopping is genetic (assuming it's even a gene at the same locus)
and if the swollen lymph node problem is indeed something dominant that is coming directly from her.
Assuming the ears do not just straiten themselves out in the next few months.
__________ Wed May 13, 2015 7:16 pm __________
While I have everyone's attention...Take a look at this beauty of a squirrel.
She's out of some pretty decent American lines crossed with...I don't know what. Whatever it is, it's made a nice looking mutt.
She has a very solid, level personality. Likes petting and treats. I think we'll get along OK.
I'm not sure why she still has no name??? Actually, I don't even know what I have her for, aside from wanting to fill the rabbitry with something nicer tempered than the silverfox mutts.
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I meant that he looks like he has a wide ear base for upright ears. My meat mutts and rex I can just get a finger between them. Doesn't a wide ear base attribute to the floppy ears? Just seem logical (at least to me lol) that a wider ear base would make upright ears more difficult to well, keep upright...
I love the idea of breeding him to Mucky.
While I have everyone's attention...Take a look at this beauty of a squirrel.
She is gorgeous!
Celice":8cehznty said:
He was normal looking, until a few days ago. One ear went down...I didn't think much of it. Like Akane said, it's not uncommon for them to have one weak ear for a while and outgrow it.
It's never "really hot" in this part of NE PA.
It did just go from rather nice(almost 80's) to fairly cool (40's).
They had a fan in the heat though, and the rabbitry is sheltered from the sun. Only this one kit (in the entire rabbitry) seems to be affected.
:shrug:
He really looks like the result of a lop in the woodpile :lol: , but I don't think that's the case.
Susie570
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He would have a pinched crown for a lop. Not sure about how it compares to other, upright eared breeds though. To my eye, they all look narrow when they're upright.
That is a pretty doe though and it would be interesting to see what kind of litter you would get from him with mucky.
That is a pretty doe though and it would be interesting to see what kind of litter you would get from him with mucky.
curelom
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alforddm":34c8g5g3 said:
Me too.
I think he's rather cute, such a fluffy guy with the lopped ears. Even if he would be a bad mini lop. :roll:
Tbgb1912
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What a gorgeous boy! Don't send him to freezer camp whatever you do! :lol:
LopLover
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Zass":1k1epven said:alforddm":1k1epven said:
I'd have thought it was pinched or narrow, to causes the ears to flare out instead of hanging down??
It doesn't matter though, since it would be silly to introduce anything like this to a lop gene pool.
Although I WAS looking for a meat buck to breed with Mucky, to test my theory on the inheritance of certain genes she carries. So far breeding v-lop bucks to meat does has led to wonky oversized ears and a lot of helicopter effect, but otherwise healthy kits with no swollen lymph nodes.
Every single one of those kits was eaten though, non ever survived to contribute genes to my lines.
And with this kit being a lynx, there is no question as to who the father might have been. It was the one I bred her to, the same buck who threw all my lynx kits.
If I cross this guy with Mucky, she can finally have another litter (she loves being a mom) and I'll be able to test to see if the lopping is genetic (assuming it's even a gene at the same locus)
and if the swollen lymph node problem is indeed something dominant that is coming directly from her.
Assuming the ears do not just straiten themselves out in the next few months.
__________ Wed May 13, 2015 7:16 pm __________
While I have everyone's attention...Take a look at this beauty of a squirrel.
She's out of some pretty decent American lines crossed with...I don't know what. Whatever it is, it's made a nice looking mutt.
She has a very solid, level personality. Likes petting and treats. I think we'll get along OK.
I'm not sure why she still has no name??? Actually, I don't even know what I have her for, aside from wanting to fill the rabbitry with something nicer tempered than the silverfox mutts.
Do I see some foxy coated chins in the future.
That would be pretty. Maybe even a few chocolate chins.
LopLover":1037bd8g said:Do I see some foxy coated chins in the future.
Smara is working on those, and that is where this squirrel came from.
I've kept my agouti-fox line cchd-free so far. Every time I bring a chinchilla carrier in, fate seems to interfere with me actually breeding it into the line.
I think this girl is going to be bred to the magpie buck for some solid meat cross kits, and for harlequinized chinchilla or magpie pelts.
(Or chocolate variants of those if she has it.
I don't know if he has blue, but I know he has chocolate and I'm pretty sure one of her ancestors also had it.)
__________ Fri May 15, 2015 10:38 pm __________
Apparently, this guy can lop on a whim, and just as quickly un-lop, and then lop again. :? I never know where the ears will be when I visit the rabbitry.
Weak ear muscles + temp swings...I guess... :shrug: I'm pretty sure now he'll be strait eared as an adult.
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I have a Rex growout that will be in full- or half-lop mode sometimes. :? He may have stopped, because I haven't seen him lop in about a week now.
