What colour is my buck?

[Tbgb1912]

So I'm still not 100% sure on what his colouring is defined as. I've had a couple of different responses such as blue agouti or blue chinchilla, but upon Google searching those colours I didn't get images that were like his colouring.

He has sired two kits to a chocolate doe, one blue or lilac kit and one I don't know the colouring of (Photo below) if that helps determine his genetics

 

[Susie570]

I believe he is a blue agouti chinchilla.

I'm certain about the agouti part, white eye circles, white around his nose, ring coat pattern. I'm mostly certain of the blue (dilute black). I'm somewhat certain of the chinchilla part, which means there is no tan color to his coat. Just the blue and white.

I believe the kit might be black agouti chin, but I'm only certain of the agouti part. I'm still learning colors.

 

[Dood]

I agree 100% with Syberchick :greatjob:

He may be a blue sable agouti as well as he has white shading that more closely resembles the sable gene but there is no way to know for certain unless you test breed

The kit looks like a black chin (or black sable agouti)

 

[Susie570]

I agree 100% with Syberchick :greatjob:

:shock: :fainting: inkbunny:

See? Some of it is starting to sink in!!!

 

[Tbgb1912]

So depending on what other offspring colours he sires, would determine being sable or chinchilla?

 

[Susie570]

So depending on what other offspring colours he sires, would determine being sable or chinchilla?

I believe so, but I'm not sure how that works, exactly.
For instance, I know (from my 'oops' litter), that my buck carries tri, because he produced tri/harli when bred to a harli and both parents have to carry it to produce tri kits.

I'm not sure how it works with chin/sable

 

[Dood]

So depending on what other offspring colours he sires, would determine being sable or chinchilla?

yes - if bred to a Himalayan or REW and you get sables or sable points you'll know he has the sable and not the chinchilla gene

I believe so, but I'm not sure how that works, exactly.
For instance, I know (from my 'oops' litter), that my buck carries tri, because he produced tri/harli when bred to a harli and both parents have to carry it to produce tri kits.

I'm not sure how it works with chin/sable

both parents do NOT need to carry harli to produce this colour. One must carry it and the other parent can carry it OR carry non-extension

your buck likely does not carry the "tri/harli" gene or else he would be a harlequinized chinchilla - he probably carries non extension instead, it is recessive to your does japanese harli gene and why he produced tri/harli kits with her

 

[ladysown]

the kit looks just like the sable chins that I've been getting lately out of the following crosses: SneakThief a californian meat buck crossed to poppet a sable point mixed breed and her daughter IvyPool a siamese sable doe.

the buck is a blue chin. I used to raise a lot of those and would love to have some again...just have to figure out how to get them...

 

[Susie570]

So depending on what other offspring colours he sires, would determine being sable or chinchilla?

yes - if bred to a Himalayan or REW and you get sables or sable points you'll know he has the sable and not the chinchilla gene

I believe so, but I'm not sure how that works, exactly.
For instance, I know (from my 'oops' litter), that my buck carries tri, because he produced tri/harli when bred to a harli and both parents have to carry it to produce tri kits.

I'm not sure how it works with chin/sable

both parents do NOT need to carry harli to produce this colour. One must carry it and the other parent can carry it OR carry non-extension

your buck likely does not carry the "tri/harli" gene or else he would be a harlequinized chinchilla - he probably carries non extension instead, it is recessive to your does japanese harli gene and why he produced tri/harli kits with her

OH! Well derrr. I had several other people tell me that BOTH parents MUST carry it, or it won't show up. Win some, lose some. Still learning!!