**warning, graphic!** MoonTune Necropsy

[Deer Heart]

Did you get any pics of her mouth? I was just a little curious what it looked like in there based on your initial description...

I did but I couldn't really see anything nor could I get decent pictures without cutting much further than I went and after verifying that her teeth looked fine, it didn't feel respectful to cut further to me somehow. Plus her breath was making me woosy. Here's the best picture I got of that side, you can see some of the black plaque buildup sort of.

-- Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:16 pm --

Reading this and seeing those images , the damage done to that liver didn't happen overnight .... I think this rabbit came to you with whatever ailment caused its death.

After reading this and the other thread , I lean towards coccidiosis as the root cause with renal failure being a compliaction.

Thank you for this. But now a concern arises. Is Cocci that a rabbit gets the same kind poultry get (namely chickens and ducks) My birds have access to the ground under the rabbit cages and sometimes they scratch at bunny poo to get to fallen pellets. Should I treat my birds to be safe?

-- Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:23 pm --

EDIT

Genus Eimeria affects birds such as poultry and mammals such as cattle and rabbits.[6] Species include E. tenella, E. brunetti, E. necatrix, and E. acervulina. Sulfonamides are effective.

....poopy.

I should treat my birds to be safe as well as the buck as he has mated with her, there's a risk he might have been exposed then though he is acting normal for me right now.... I learned a lesson now to what degree some rabbits will hide illness. :|

 

[Miss M]

Just to make sure, are we sure the strange colors we are seeing are NOT the result of postmortem blood pooling?

Nothing looks normal, but I just want to make sure.

We had one bunny who smelled of death before we put her down. Not pleasant.

 

[Deer Heart]

Just to make sure, are we sure the strange colors we are seeing are NOT the result of postmortem blood pooling?

Nothing looks normal, but I just want to make sure.

We had one bunny who smelled of death before we put her down. Not pleasant.

I was thinking that with the liver, but the kidneys were so black completely around that I doubted that to be the case with them. They were exactly as black as pictured on all sides. Perhaps this is the case of the colors of the lungs though? I'm unfamiliar with post mortem blood pooling in lungs and how that generally presents. They did have a sort of gelatinized foam to one side of the lung (pictured just above the top of the heart and slightly to the right), I think it was air that escaped after death that was sort of coagulated over with blood.

 

[ladysown]

Those lungs look like pneumonia lungs.

The black liver is mostly due to blood pooling (from what I know).

Jelly in the small intestine makes me think a digestive issue... possibly intestinal cocci

The kidneys just look SO wrong.

The stomach...I've seen stomachs look like that in rabbits not necropsies immediately after death so the colouration might mean nothing.

 

[Ramjet]

Those lungs look like pneumonia lungs.

The black liver is mostly due to blood pooling (from what I know).

Jelly in the small intestine makes me think a digestive issue... possibly intestinal cocci

The kidneys just look SO wrong.

The stomach...I've seen stomachs look like that in rabbits not necropsies immediately after death so the colouration might mean nothing.

Coccidiosis in other critters can affect the lungs (Dogs causing kennel cough) liver & intestines. I would assume rabbits would be little different. A failing liver might put the kidneys under stress in dealing with the infection ?

The color of the inside of the hide looks a bit jaundiced ? Possibly from liver & kidney issues. Tho that could due to the length of time between death & necropsy.

I'm no vet and I didn't stay in a Holliday Inn Express last night but ..... Most of the signs point in the same direction.

 

[michaels4gardens]

JMHO, - When a rabbit has a system failure, due to any number of things, - it will succumb to everything it is exposed to, [things a healthy rabbit immune system would fight off] it may not be a "new strange disease" or anything to worry about, [or it may] - The total system damage is consistent with a systemic collapse. - the only "single" thing I have seen that causes this much damage [or worse] was clostridium perfringens , but in an older rabbit I would just suspect that it "crashed"