vienna mark and vienna carrier

[Mary Ann's Rabbitry]

A Vienna carrier is when the offspring of the Vienna mark parents.. I know they are not showable. And it comes from the BEw gene.. Is this right
Most of the babies have brown ticking.. Is this from the Vienna mark or other colors

 

[skysthelimit]

Vienna marked isn't showable. Brown ticking isn't Vienna.
I have to find the post where you mentioned colors to see. Kit color can be strange though, might have to wait until they are a bit older to really see what's going on.

 

[Mary Ann's Rabbitry]

ok, thanks.. just some one try to tell me that the ticking comes from the Vienna mark gene.. I knew it didn't. but I had to check.. The dam is Vienna mark black and the dad is a tort.. He is more like the black tort.. not the blue tort which is the fawn ect..

 

[Dood]

Carrier and marked are genetically the same

Two vienna genes creates a BEW while one Vienna gene can show as white marks (=Vienna marked) or look like a normal rabbit (= Vienna carrier)

This gene often causes stray white hairs that are quite noticeable in self rabbits so if you have a Black (or blue or chocolate etc...) Vienna carrier that could otherwise be shown as it lacks white marks it might get disqualified for stray white hairs in the coat.

My black Vienna carrier almost looks silvered she has so many stray white hairs. If you really wanted to show an otherwise good specimen you 'could' pluck theses stray whites but my girl would be nearly bald

 

[Mary Ann's Rabbitry]

thanks dood.. can you explain the brown ticking as you can see in this pic.. and under her nose and the white dot for the Vienna gene

 

[Kyle@theWintertime]

The brown "ticking" isn't BEW/Vienna-caused for sure.

 

[Dood]

I don't believe that is a self black rabbit at all. You can clearly see a brown fringe around the nose, my guess would be a steel.

Did you breed theses? What colour and breed are the parents?

 

[Mary Ann's Rabbitry]

I didn't breed her... she was breed when I got her....the father is a tort and the mother is the black.. the one that I am showing you .. is the only one with this.. the rest look nice and black.. there is another one that has a little bit of brown ticking but it is at the ends of the hair shaft.. this is the only one that has it under the nose.. and has quite a bit on her body as well. And she is the only one with the dot on her nose.

 

[Dood]

So you purchased a black doe that was bred before pick up and this is the litter.

Hummmm, this kit looks agouti to me, can you post a picture of the doe? Do you have a picture of the buck, perhaps on the breeders website?

Some blacks can have poor colour and a brown tinge but Ive not seen one like this. Perhaps it is unique to angoras.

 

[Mary Ann's Rabbitry]

here is a picture of the DAD...

here is a pic of the Mom

 

[Dood]

Wow. This is very strange and I'm afraid I cannot answer the riddle as both parent look like selfs.

It's either a weird Angora thing and the kit is a self or another buck is the father and it is a steel.

Maybe the kit will shed out as a black while steels tend to lighten with age and get more brown hairs so perhaps in a few weeks the answer will be more obvious.