Tri questions...

[Mckatie]

I have a well colored and marked tri rex (black, orange white) and her sister, a broken castor rex.
1st. Question: on the pedigree I noticed a grand parent marked "Black and orange tri."Blondie's colour was simply marked tri. Does one need to identify the colours in a tri on the pedigrees?

I have a kit from the broken castor where the tri colours appears more diluted and smudge. (They look better in photos) More gray than black. Will the colours deepen? Thank you! Edit: they are 3 weeks old.

 

[RabbitsOfTheCreek]

I have pedigrees where the color of a Himi isn't written, so I'd assume it doesn't

 

[judymac]

While I don't think there's a rule you need to elaborate, I think it's important to give more information on the pedigree--chocolate tort instead of just tort, blue/fawn harlequin instead of just harlie, black/orange tri instead of just tri. This is important information to help determine potential recessive genetics.

I have a question about the rabbit pictures. In some shots the ear spots look blue, but the ones on the side seem more chocolate:

Does the pedigree have either chocolate or dilute (blue, lilac, fawn)?

 

[Mckatie]

While I don't think there's a rule you need to elaborate, I think it's important to give more information on the pedigree--chocolate tort instead of just tort, blue/fawn harlequin instead of just harlie, black/orange tri instead of just tri. This is important information to help determine potential recessive genetics.

I have a question about the rabbit pictures. In some shots the ear spots look blue, but the ones on the side seem more chocolate:
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Does the pedigree have either chocolate or dilute (blue, lilac, fawn)?

Thank you. I put in the extra information for that reason( Frostie, silver tipped, etc.) in my New Zealand pedigrees because a lot of people might want to know (courtesy of conversations on here). The father of this litter is Chocolate. The sire of the doe is Opal. This kit simply doesn't have the depth of colour as the aunt, making me think dilute. I only have 3 rex rabbits , chocolate buck, broken castor, and the tri . The litter consisted of 2 broken black, 2 blue, 1 black, 1 chocolate, 1 broken chocolate, broken castor and this kit. Because tri to me simply means 3 colours. Thank you!

 

[Julie Stade]

I detail the colors as exactly as possible on the pedigrees because I, personally, want to receive pedigrees with as much genetic info as is known. If I buy a Rex with a parent simply listed as Chinchilla, I'm going assume that was a black chin as it's the only showable variety. I'd be pretty ticked down the road to find out it was actually a squirrel (blue chin) or some other unshowable recessive combination if it was a rabbit going into the breeding herd.

 

[judymac]

Because tri to me simply means 3 colours.

Technically, a tri is a broken harlequin. So, any of the harlequin patterns (black/orange, chocolate/orange, blue/fawn, lilac/fawn) can be broken, adding white as the third 'color' (even though it is an absence of color in reality).
The more I look at the rabbit, the more the color seems chocolate instead of blue:

What about the dark eye rings, I couldn't tell shade on those?

 

[Alaska Satin]

Thank you. I put in the extra information for that reason( Frostie, silver tipped, etc.) in my New Zealand pedigrees because a lot of people might want to know (courtesy of conversations on here). The father of this litter is Chocolate. The sire of the doe is Opal. This kit simply doesn't have the depth of colour as the aunt, making me think dilute. I only have 3 rex rabbits , chocolate buck, broken castor, and the tri . The litter consisted of 2 broken black, 2 blue, 1 black, 1 chocolate, 1 broken chocolate, broken castor and this kit. Because tri to me simply means 3 colours. Thank you!

I agree, put as much information on the pedigree as possible, with the caveat that if you're not completely sure, indicate that as well. For example, in the case of a charlie with very little color to go on: tricolor (chocolate or lilac).

One more caveat: if it is a pedigree to be submitted for registration of the animal, don't put question marks in the variety. Use your best guess, based on your observation of the animal and its ancestry, but you need to pick one variety. In the example above, that would be "tricolor." On a pedigree you hand to a buyer, though, it's courteous to include as much information as possible.

I agree with @judymac that on my screen the spots on your bunny look closer to chocolate, and the eye spots are in shadow so I can't make out what color they are. The orange seems too deep to me to be a dilute.

I found with the Mini Rex that the colors did deepen as they grew in their adult coat. When they're itty bitties they were sometimes heavy on the underfur relative to guard hairs, so the woolly undercoat showed more on 3-week-olds than it did on older kits and adults. I noticed it most dramatically on castors, but that might be a factor here. It would be cool to see a time series of this bunny's development.

 

[Mckatie]

The spots do look chocolate .

 

[Mckatie]

I agree, put as much information on the pedigree as possible, with the caveat that if you're not completely sure, indicate that as well. For example, in the case of a charlie with very little color to go on: tricolor (chocolate or lilac).

One more caveat: if it is a pedigree to be submitted for registration of the animal, don't put question marks in the variety. Use your best guess, based on your observation of the animal and its ancestry, but you need to pick one variety. In the example above, that would be "tricolor." On a pedigree you hand to a buyer, though, it's courteous to include as much

Thanks for all your thoughts on this everyone!

 

[judymac]

I would say a chocolate/orange tri.