The string trick works better than lifting!

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GBov

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I have been lifting many of my does for the buck myself as they all seem disinclined to breed for me. It works alright but its hard for me to get the angle right so I tried something recommended to me years ago.

Take the string from a bag of feed, tie a running noose on one end and put the doe with the buck. When sure she is not going to lift, slip the noose round her tail and snug it tight. Get her head aimed at you with the string running up her back and wrapped round your hand. When the buck mounts firmly pull string to lift her tail up.

The funny thing is, when her tail starts to go up she lifts the rest of the way herself! Its like an automatic gesture, once the lift starts the body finishes it.

So far that has happened to all three of the does I have tried it on and havnt they all looked surprised! :lol:

Now if I could just figure out how to make my bucks stop the victory dance and do the job more than once! :evil:
 
When my bucks are a little over enthusiastic about a job well done I put the doe back in her cage for a few minutes, and then return her to the buck later. I only wait about two minutes or so, but on their own the boys would be bragging for at least five minutes before trying again, so it's quicker.
 
I have tried taking the doe out and walking away and coming back but it didn't work. Perhaps next time I will put the doe back, breed another one and then get back to first one.

When people say "breed like rabbits" to me now I want to slug em!
 
I might have to try this with the flops. I have one that has learned to stretch out (so it looks like she will cooperate) but then she turns her hips to the side and pulls her tail down. I managed to finally get one of the flops bred by holding up her tail real high. The string might work better with these two. I have the victory dance problem with a few bucks, too...
 
I've thought about using the string method but never have really been able to see how it works in my head. I understand the principle behind it just not the placement and such. I'm the type of person who has to see it used in order to use it myself so I've just stuck to holding them.
 
NEAT!!! I had never heard of this method!!

And "Buck Victory Dance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
mystang89":2ewm7ruq said:
I've thought about using the string method but never have really been able to see how it works in my head. I understand the principle behind it just not the placement and such. I'm the type of person who has to see it used in order to use it myself so I've just stuck to holding them.

I couldn't manage it in my head either until I started lifting them. The doe needs to be aimed tward you but not head on, slightly sideways. The same direction for lifting. Keep one hand on her head/shoulders with the string wraped round the other hand. When buck mounts pull string tward the does head and a bit upward so it lifts the tail but not the buck.

It sounds complicated but if you are lifting does already its just a little bit different.

We shall see if it gives better litters than lifting next month. It sure was easier!
 
GBov":1gwff4qq said:
The funny thing is, when her tail starts to go up she lifts the rest of the way herself! Its like an automatic gesture, once the lift starts the body finishes it.

So far that has happened to all three of the does I have tried it on and havnt they all looked surprised! :lol:

:rotfl:

I have GOT to try this! I love the automatic response to lift when the tail goes up!

Mwa-ha-ha! Look out, reluctant does! :twisted:
 
Well if the doe isn't in condition nothing is going to get her bred because she won't release eggs so likely that's where the failure in such methods lie. I have held does up before but it is tricky and some bucks won't breed with your hand there. Some won't even breed with your hand on the shoulders of an energetic doe. I did have good luck taking ready to breed but ornery does back out of the buck's cage, throwing them in a little quarantine cage with nothing, doing some chores, and then trying again. It seems they just had to sit there in solitary thinking about the idea and letting their hormones catch up with exposure to a buck.
 
akane":sada72kd said:
Well if the doe isn't in condition nothing is going to get her bred because she won't release eggs so likely that's where the failure in such methods lie. I have held does up before but it is tricky and some bucks won't breed with your hand there. Some won't even breed with your hand on the shoulders of an energetic doe. I did have good luck taking ready to breed but ornery does back out of the buck's cage, throwing them in a little quarantine cage with nothing, doing some chores, and then trying again. It seems they just had to sit there in solitary thinking about the idea and letting their hormones catch up with exposure to a buck.

I just reach in between the two and pull the tail out of the way. My buck doesn't mine me at all...ha...I think he appreciates the help :lol:

So what exactly is a buck victory dance?
 
Zass":384vin5o said:
So what exactly is a buck victory dance?

It is when instead of getting back down to business they thump the floor repeatedly, taking quick excited little hops, usually accompanied by a "Yes, I am a stud muffin!" flip of the head and ears.

An exceptionally prideful buck will also burst into song... usually something along the lines of "I'm too sexy for my shirt". ;)
 
That's Kido. He's so great figuring out which does are ready to breed and then getting them to breed but convincing him he should breed more than once is difficult. He goes bouncing around grunting, thumping, and periodically grooming the doe on the shoulder. He's such a successful and smart buck about handling the does that I just throw them together and walk away for the day. 9 times out of 10 I get kits with no incidences.
 
MamaSheepdog":crng11vj said:
Zass":crng11vj said:
So what exactly is a buck victory dance?

It is when instead of getting back down to business they thump the floor repeatedly, taking quick excited little hops, usually accompanied by a "Yes, I am a stud muffin!" flip of the head and ears.

An exceptionally prideful buck will also burst into song... usually something along the lines of "I'm too sexy for my shirt". ;)

Which makes me want to sing back "Your NOT to sexy for the POT!"
 
MamaSheepdog":3tcbia9r said:
Zass":3tcbia9r said:
So what exactly is a buck victory dance?

It is when instead of getting back down to business they thump the floor repeatedly, taking quick excited little hops, usually accompanied by a "Yes, I am a stud muffin!" flip of the head and ears.

An exceptionally prideful buck will also burst into song... usually something along the lines of "I'm too sexy for my shirt". ;)


Hmm, I always thought they were thumping out of frustration....... "I have got to last a bit longer or the girls will be talking." I always thought when a doe would not lift....." Ya, 3 seconds what's in it for me, you got to come up with more game than that".... :bunnyhop:

Bowbuild
 
GBov":19h552c2 said:
MamaSheepdog":19h552c2 said:
An exceptionally prideful buck will also burst into song... usually something along the lines of "I'm too sexy for my shirt". ;)

Which makes me want to sing back "Your NOT to sexy for the POT!"

*SNORT!*

I processed a dozen rabbits yesterday, and as I was about to do a young buck, Hubs asked me "Are you going to sing Your NOT too sexy for the POT to him?"

So you can imagine the song I had going through my head as I worked. :roll:

bowbuild":19h552c2 said:
Hmm, I always thought they were thumping out of frustration....... "I have got to last a bit longer or the girls will be talking."

:rotfl:

I hadn't considered that! :shock: It takes a man's perspective, I suppose. :?

bowbuild":19h552c2 said:
I always thought when a doe would not lift....." Ya, 3 seconds what's in it for me, you got to come up with more game than that".... :bunnyhop:

Good point! No wonder they play hard to get, poor girls! :mrgreen:
 
MamaSheepdog":axoy0bki said:
bowbuild":axoy0bki said:
I always thought when a doe would not lift....." Ya, 3 seconds what's in it for me, you got to come up with more game than that".... :bunnyhop:

Good point! No wonder they play hard to get, poor girls! :mrgreen:


I just put a young doe in with an experienced but, he mounted but she wasn't interested, so he starts the whole routine-ear licking, face licking. I don't think she liked the fact that they weren't properly introduced to begin with. He's turning on the charm, but I'll make sure the deal is sealed myself this evening.
 

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