So..while the topic is up...guesses?

[Zass]

Here's the first "silver fox" someone sold me,(haha, LOL) also the first rabbit I ever owned, so I can be forgiven for not knowing one end of a bunny from the other

He's a chinchilla steel mutt who also carried non-extension, and rew.
Weighed about 12 lbs, I think. He was still an excellent meat buck.

Anyone have a guess as to what breeds made up him?

 

[SatinsRule]

I'm guessing he has some silver fox in him, but is also mixed with either a Standard Chin or Chin Satin. Doesn't really look like an American Chin or Giant Chin, as those are both basically semi-arched breeds and his frame doesn't suggest either one, IMHO.

Could also be mixed with a New Zealand White.

 

[Ramjet]

Could also be mixed with a New Zealand White.

That head size / shape leads me to believe that NZW is a strong possibility.

 

[Zass]

he had a MONSTER head, ha
To get the chinchilla color, I would need two breeds who have it though, but his type was very commercial.
The lineup of genes(steel, chinchilla, rew, and non-extension) suggest FG and NZW, but nothing about this rabbits shape was anything like a FG, and also, is it common for NZW to carry chinchilla color? I guess anything is possible, but maybe, a second generation mutt?

He didn't throw kits with the best pelts, actually, sometimes they would have these long and weirdly coarse guard hairs (nothing like a SF's) as they weren't nice-to-touch at all.

 

[Birds Buns N Bees]

NZW rabbits can't carry chinchilla, since the chinchilla gene and the albino gene are on the same locus, and albino (REW) is recessive to chinchilla. That does mean that if you bred a NZW to a chin-colored rabbit, you'd get chins in the first generation.

I've also heard that it's common for NZW to have the steel gene.

 

[Zass]

NZW rabbits can't carry chinchilla, since the chinchilla gene and the albino gene are on the same locus, and albino (REW) is recessive to chinchilla. That does mean that if you bred a NZW to a chin-colored rabbit, you'd get chins in the first generation.

I've also heard that it's common for NZW to have the steel gene.

So your saying he would have been:
cchd and c (to look chinchilla and throw rew), and that he could be a strait up NZW crossed with some sort of chinchilla, right? I haven't done much with C locus rabbits.

 

[Bad Habit]

NZW rabbits can't carry chinchilla, since the chinchilla gene and the albino gene are on the same locus, and albino (REW) is recessive to chinchilla. That does mean that if you bred a NZW to a chin-colored rabbit, you'd get chins in the first generation.

I've also heard that it's common for NZW to have the steel gene.

So your saying he would have been:
cchd and c (to look chinchilla and throw rew), and that he could be a strait up NZW crossed with some sort of chinchilla, right? I haven't done much with C locus rabbits.

Yes, that would make sense... Except I don't think he was chin, I think he was some sort of steel - chin is agouti based, and he didn't have agouti markings.

 

[Dood]

He looks a lot like my gold tipped steel NZ x Flemish and his very heavy bone structure does suggest Flemmish Giant as well as being a non-extension carrier. My guy is tad longer in the body and has massive hips, likey from his FG mom, but it looks like your guy took after his NZ side more, although his butt does look pretty big in the pictures

He could come from a first generation cross of a REW and a chinchilla, especially since quite a few REW are steel carriers.

Genetically he is A_ B_ cchd c D_ Es e

Oh, and those ears just scream FG

 

[Bad Habit]

does steel hide agouti markings? this guy doesn't have eye rings, markings under the nose or light inside the ears.

 

[Dood]

does steel hide agouti markings? this guy doesn't have eye rings, markings under the nose or light inside the ears.

Yes. As newborns they look like self blacks (or blue or chocolate or lilac) the steel gene extends the dark pigment along the hair shaft so there is only ticking on the tips of the fur but since the eye and ears fur is shorter it looks black.

 

[Bad Habit]

did not know that... then again, I've never worked with steel, so... lol