GBov":2ywsbvgm said:
We got a five year old, pure bred, black NZ doe a year ago and put her with our Gold Tipped Steel NZ buck, Goof Ball.
She gave us two GTS, One REW and a Red kit.
Her next litter had GTS and a black.
THIS litter only had two kits in it.
One is either a very red blond or a really blond red and the other?
Its marked like a Californian!
Little white body with dark ears, nose and tail.
What is up with THAT???
Hello GBov,
Are you sure your buck really is a steel? Steel must have Es E, while red/fawn/tort/frostie must have e e. The doe could carry e, but I don't see how a steel buck could produce anything non-extention. Maybe he's an agouti with dfficult to detect rings. Some of my agouti and steel kits are easily mistaken one for the other, though the banding gets clearer when they get older.
If the doe is really a hidden steel (Es e, or Es Es, or aa Es E) instead of a pure self, then she could produce steels with an agouti buck. I have several hidden steel does like that.
The californian marked kit is easy. Both parents could be either C ch, or C c. The C gives the parent it's solid color, and the ch_ makes the kit white with black points.
Then, if the buck is really an agouti carrying e, instead of a steel, the REW kit could be ch_ ee. The ee would hide the black markings, so you actually have a caifornian marked kit that looks pure white.
Or maybe one of the parents is hiding the vienna gene, and the REW kits is really a californian marked with the vienna gene happening to cover all the black bits.
So, this would mean your doe is C ch Es e. She could be A_ or aa.
And your buck is A_ C ch E e.
The steel kits are A_ C_ EsE.
The black kit is probably a hidden steel (Es e), but could be a pure self (aa).
The red/blond kits are A_ C_ ee.
The californian marked kit is A_ ch_ E_.
And the REW kit is ch_ ee, or ch_ with Vienna gene covering up the black markings.
This all assumes the buck is a misidentified agouti.
I'm not questioning your ability to identify steel. I'm just stumped as to how your doe could come up with red kits at all with a steel mate. Any chance she's been sneaking around with another buck?
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ETA: I was just reading another thread where Diamond has a black rabbit with scattered white tipped hairs. That remnded me that hidden steels can sometimes show some ticking, just not the full steel coloring. Diamond's doe is Es ej. So, if your buck is also a partly ticked steel, he could be Es e, and not really an agouti, thus giving you the ability to produce red from steel.
