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After deciding to try to get into feeder rats, small meat rabbits, and quail in the upcoming year, I've gotten my first bite: someone with an incubator who'd be willing to house and do daily care for a fee. This would mean MUCH cheaper meat, for both myself and the housemates (they will eat quail), so I should be keeping some pretty pennies back (to feed the rabbit habit, of course).

Now I'm getting excited and thinking about what I plan to do with the birds. I have about a month to plan for everything. I know I want Japanese Cortunix and I have housing I could use, but now I can think about colors, male/female ratio, feeding plans, etc.

Now for questions time!

I have a 4.8 sq ft cage that I can use for the housing of quail and perhaps a large dog crate if the housemates will allow me to use it (as no dog uses it). But just for the cage, how many grow out/temporary breeder quail would you guys suggest? Water bottle will be put on the outside of the cage and feeder will be put inside the cage.

I plan to provide four people with dinners two nights a week to begin with. So that's sixteen quail a month, I think? Everyone normally eats a single chicken breast. I'm trying to replace the staple chicken with quail eventually.

What sort of breeding process does everyone use to keep a stable amount of dinner table quail? Kill the older hens as soon as their first offspring start laying eggs, then kill the first offspring (O1) as soon as the second offspring start laying eggs, etc. and then start the process again? Or what? I figure you'd keep a roo as long as you could, but keep cycling the females, maybe holding back a really great producer here and there? Oh, and does temperature in the incubator affect sexes at all?

What have you found to be the best feeding method? I hear gamebird feed is the obvious solution, but it is more expensive and I avoid pelleted feed. I figured I could maybe raise mealworms outside in the garden. I hear they also will eat quite a varied diet, being omnivores. According to Greg Yarrow, quail can eat "beggarweeds, partridge peas, milk peas, butterfly peas, the native and cultivated lespedezas (common, bicolor, Kobe, Korean), sesbania, paspalum, panic grass, ragweed, chocolate weed, blackberry, mulberry, pine, oak, sweetgum, mast and cultivated crops such as cowpeas, soybeans, sorghum, wheat and corn." I can get the weeds, wheat, and corn easily and my backyard is full of pines and sweet gums. Not sure what part of the trees they eat, though--nuts/seeds? Thoughts on natural feeding for quail, though? In the least, I could supplement their pelleted diet. Oh, and I hear cat food can work well. If I could get cat food cheaper at TSC than gamebird feed, I might take that route.

And I think that's it for now. :lol: I'm double-checking a lot of things, mostly, because I'd like this to go as smoothly as possible.

Thanks in advance!
 
ive recently started raising quail and they have quickly become my favorite small stock. One problem with your plan is the feeder being on the inside of the cage. Quail are extremely wasteful if you allow them to be, They will attempt to dust themselves in their feed and waste more than they consume. My feeder is a rabbit crock on the outside of the cage the quail have no trouble eating from it through the 1x2 wire I used for making cages. I have had almost no luck feeding the quail greens at this point they pretty much ignore it and just eat their feed, It could be because I bought these as older birds already laying I plan on trying to get their chicks on greens early.
 
I've had JC quail. They are easy. Its been years but they lay eggs all the time I would not plan on replacing hens that often. Just try to figure how many you need to start then find out how many months it takes for them to start laying then plan on raising babies for replacements but honestly I don't know if even the young hens will lay in winter. They may be a seasonal thing or you may have to use lighting like in poultry houses. Good luck! :)
 
Okay. That makes sense. I could attach a feeder to the outside instead. Hmmm.

And you have a point. I suppose after the chicks are a bit older, they can be put in with their mothers? So just keep a rotating crop of the original hens' offspring? That'd work. And eat the extra eggs beyond requirements. Hmmm. Good idea. And, yeah. Lightning could be an issue. It rarely drops below freezing here in AL, but the amount of light does go down quite a bit. Hmmm. I guess I could find a cheap way to light the cage (heat lamp? lantern?) or wait until spring. -shrugs- If nature makes me wait for quail, I can just work on improving my rabbits, maybe getting into feeder rats, and setting up the hydroponic garden I'm planning. So many projects, so little time.
 
I had to go with artificial lights to get my quail to really start laying. If you try on rely on natural light I think you will be very disappointed as I know I was, I only got about 1 egg a day from 5 hens. with artificial light on 17 hours a day they lay 4 to 5 eggs a day
 
I plan to provide four people with dinners two nights a week to begin with. So that's sixteen quail a month, I think?
If each person eats 1/2 a quail, but if they each get their own that will be 8 a week or 36 a month

I've never plucked a quail but have experience plucking pigeons/squabs and it is a real PITA. Perhaps try processing a few quail and see if you like/tollerate it.

I personally HATE plucking and skin all my home processed poultry - the processing plant de-feathers any we send out.
 
Quail are fun i like my jumbos they get close to a pound to harvest them i dip them for a few seconds in hot but not boiling water POOF 2 hand strokes no feathers . enjoy
 
Thank you, Dood. I am really awful with maths; the numbers get all muddled in my head and on paper, sort of like a dyslexic person with letters.

From what I've seen of butchering, quail are skinned rather than plucked, but good to know, Tammy! I'll have to try both ways. I bet the latter will have juicier meat because the skin is left on. Either way, though, I could totally wrap them in bacon and they'll stay delicious. :mrgreen:

I hear quail meat is sort of like between chicken and turkey? Can anyone explain more? I want to try it, of course, but I basically like most foods, except those I'm allergic to, so I really should be fine. I figure I'll buy a live quail and butcher it at the place I buy it from and bring it home for everyone to try first, though. Can I just put it on ice to bring it home?
 
I like to cook them like turkey stuffed with all and everything i have tried Olives ,oranges and so on but Mushrooms OMG to die for ,
have fun experiment i also have cats Pixie bobs and a dog the eggs are great for kittens and the older animals as well as the meat . If you just do breasts your really missing out on some of the best flavor in the world . But that's my opinion
 
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