Cali doe has again, dug a tunnel[3 of them!] and pulled fur under the crate. Gave out hay and again, nothing. No kits, no more nesting, nothing. What the heck?? What was it, a week, maybe two since the last false call? What's going on?<br /><br />__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:23 pm __________<br /><br />Other doe that lives with her pulled fur this morning, but nothing.
Pulled fur and tunnels, no kits
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I would have your does kinddle in a cage. You may have something eating the kits.
I had a baby possum in my chicken coop. I just thought that the chickens were eating more scratch. He ran the hens off of a nest, a day before hatch.
- You could also have a plant, that is one of the natural abortiants. That is making the does, miscarry.
I had a baby possum in my chicken coop. I just thought that the chickens were eating more scratch. He ran the hens off of a nest, a day before hatch.
- You could also have a plant, that is one of the natural abortiants. That is making the does, miscarry.
Nothing can get in the yard and there is never any blood nor an actual nest made. They stop after digging a hole and pulling fur. They don't mix the fur and hay, nothing.
What plant causes abortions? They kindled just fine in tractors, I don't see why an open pen would change it so much.
What plant causes abortions? They kindled just fine in tractors, I don't see why an open pen would change it so much.
I do a process of elimination. Put them ( or at least some) in cages, where you have 'Complete' control! Feed only hay and use them as a control group. You have lost too much potential money, then when you come on here, and read about how well we do.
I can imagine the frustration. You have at least one rouge variable - it may be an animal or it may be a plant. Do you use well water?
I can imagine the frustration. You have at least one rouge variable - it may be an animal or it may be a plant. Do you use well water?
Pics of the holes they have made just now and fur. Last pics of the two guilty of hole making and their buck lounging around.
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Yea, we have well water, but it's never caused issues and we haven't cleaned the hole. We don't spray the yard. Of course, it could be heat sterility on the buck's part, no?
I've got no where to put the rabbits w/o birds crapping on them or the dog messing with them. There's no new plants that I don't recognize.
Piper":2bcvasc3 said:
Yea, we have well water, but it's never caused issues and we haven't cleaned the hole. We don't spray the yard. Of course, it could be heat sterility on the buck's part, no?
I've got no where to put the rabbits w/o birds crapping on them or the dog messing with them. There's no new plants that I don't recognize.
keep records of everyone. Could you have does, that are eating their young?
I do not know enough, to look at your plants and recognize them. It is getting cool enough that you could make an above ground den, kinda like MaggieJ's that she uses in her colonies and put it out, to see if they will use it.<br /><br />__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:15 pm __________<br /><br />You may have to, buy or make a cage...
I do not know enough, to look at your plants and recognize them. It is getting cool enough that you could make an above ground den, kinda like MaggieJ's that she uses in her colonies and put it out, to see if they will use it.<br /><br />__________ Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:15 pm __________<br /><br />You may have to, buy or make a cage...
skysthelimit
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could be heat sterility, but mine are not even making nests, just no babies, though mine's weren't making nest before the heat either.
skysthelimit
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I've heard of it. I've seen some of my bucks with empty sacs as well. I didn't really think much of it at the time.
Seems backwards that they would bring them up and heat them further than let them hang and hope thye cool...
Heat sterility on the buck's part and then false pregnancy because they do mount them, on the doe's side.
Heat sterility on the buck's part and then false pregnancy because they do mount them, on the doe's side.
skysthelimit
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ChickiesnBunnies":bnt7fi33 said:
Seems backwards to me too, which is why I never gave it much thought.
Evvie
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Could it be that the buck's body is cooler than the outside temperature? If it's 100 degrees outside, I would hope the bunny is given or finding ways of keeping itself cool, so it's internal temperature might be cooler and better for the "boys". Then when the outside temperature is cooler than the body temp, they descend again? Just a theory though.ChickiesnBunnies":229y05qn said:
Joe n TN
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If you had the summer we did in Tn over in Va then I bet your buck was still sterile 30 days ago. Some Texas breeders lose 5 months of breeding in the very hot summers.
I bred two does 35 days ago, one nested, the other didn't. Neither one kindled. Both are proven and so is my buck. I am 99.999999% sure it is/was due to the heat. I am re-breeding them this week.
Joe
I bred two does 35 days ago, one nested, the other didn't. Neither one kindled. Both are proven and so is my buck. I am 99.999999% sure it is/was due to the heat. I am re-breeding them this week.
Joe
MamaSheepdog
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Evvie":1dd0zov9 said:
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