New Doe - I Actually Own Her This Time!(pic heavy)
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awwww, so furry!
Lol she and I had a little altercation already. She had some of her mane in her eye, so I went to pull it out, and she grunted and boxed me. I'm going to have to trim back that hair a little bit asap!! Also need to do her nails, they're like bear claws! I could probably take off a quarter inch without hitting quick. Am I just fanatical about keeping my pets' nails short? I can't handle seeing critters with long nails, and all three of the older rabbits I have gotten now have had real daggers on their toes.
Gorgeous!!! What a beauty! 
owlsfriend
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you will want wire floors so you dont have matts forming around the VM (vegetable matter). The first time I ever got boxed (and only) was by an Eng. Angora doe. She is now my sweetest bunny, as long as I don't try to look at her belly.
You really got a gorgeous looking rabbit.
You really got a gorgeous looking rabbit.
Thanks guys. She's supposed to be purebred Lionhead, but she doesn't seem to have any real mane... She is shedding like crazy though, and I need to brush her out. Maybe I'll find a mane once she's done blowing her coat??
Right now she has to be in a plastic bottomed cage, as the only wire floored cage I have needs some work done to make it livable. She hates being flipped, but her vent area is clean. I will keep an eye on it though and figure something out if she starts developing mats!
Right now she has to be in a plastic bottomed cage, as the only wire floored cage I have needs some work done to make it livable. She hates being flipped, but her vent area is clean. I will keep an eye on it though and figure something out if she starts developing mats!
MamaSheepdog
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What a little fluffball!
You finally got your BEW! YAY!!!
You finally got your BEW! YAY!!!
dragonladyleanne
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Wow, she IS very fluffy, even more so than my Hairy! His ears and face are not shaggy, and so far, the tuft between his ears stands up, and he has muttonchops. In fact, if I took a little hairdye to him, I could make him into an Elvis impersonator, LOL! He's getting a bit old to keep, I wish I could afford to ship him to you!
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Wow! She looks like an English Angora! :razz:
Beautiful with those blue eyes against that super-white fur! Congratulations! I know she's been a long time coming!
Beautiful with those blue eyes against that super-white fur! Congratulations! I know she's been a long time coming!
Lol she looks much better without the shake in her hair!!
I hope to brush her out tomorrow and really evaluate where the wool ends and the fur starts. Get her nails trimmed too. I hate the idea of cutting her bangs, but they seem to be getting into her eyes all the time, and it looks painful.
She does have a very angora look. I think it's the ear furnishings, which is a fault in lionheads. Dobby has wool in all the right places, but it is not very long. It is very thick, and a great texture though. Both are double maned, so I should have only double maned kits.
She's long in the body. But Dobby is very compact, so I'm hoping they will complement each other.
She's got a bad attitude. Just wants to be left alone. She grunts while I pet her, and boxed me a few times when I was trying to fix her hair.
I'm in love with her already. I'm so happy to have her here, and I just can't wait to see what she produces. She was bred to a black buck this morning, so I hope that took. I'd love to get a black VM.
I hope to brush her out tomorrow and really evaluate where the wool ends and the fur starts. Get her nails trimmed too. I hate the idea of cutting her bangs, but they seem to be getting into her eyes all the time, and it looks painful.
She does have a very angora look. I think it's the ear furnishings, which is a fault in lionheads. Dobby has wool in all the right places, but it is not very long. It is very thick, and a great texture though. Both are double maned, so I should have only double maned kits.
She's long in the body. But Dobby is very compact, so I'm hoping they will complement each other.
She's got a bad attitude. Just wants to be left alone. She grunts while I pet her, and boxed me a few times when I was trying to fix her hair.
I'm in love with her already. I'm so happy to have her here, and I just can't wait to see what she produces. She was bred to a black buck this morning, so I hope that took. I'd love to get a black VM.
ZRabbits
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She's lovely. Looks more Angora than LH, but with your Dobby, I think you will have lovely fuzzy bunnies. Wishing you all the luck with her. I think the grooming will help you calm her down and let her get to know you.
Karen
Karen
Devon's Mom Lauren
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That looks like some sort of English Angora cross. I saw a couple LH's at the Royal this year that looked like they may have EA blood in them too. A lionhead and even a Jersey Wooly have clean faces. There is also a small crimp in that wool, while the Lh's have none. What you may have though is the start of a new breed... Mini Angora's!
Nope, lionheads are supposed to have a crimp. Dobby has one. They should have clean faces, though, and ear furnishings going further up than halfway(I think) are a fault.
I'm actually in contact with her breeder, Caput Leonis Rabbitry. She's given me permission to share parent photos.
This is BG, her sire. He is fully pedigreed.
And her dam, Cadbury. She isn't pedigreed. But they both look like Lionheads!!
I'm actually in contact with her breeder, Caput Leonis Rabbitry. She's given me permission to share parent photos.
This is BG, her sire. He is fully pedigreed.
And her dam, Cadbury. She isn't pedigreed. But they both look like Lionheads!!
ZRabbits
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Now I've seen why there are some LH's slipping into the Angora arena. She does look more Angora than LH, but that's what you want to really get a strong DM gene. How old is she? Since she's already bred, is this her first litter? Wishing you luck.
And regarding the "clean" face look, you should read the SOP for LH. The trend has changed on that. It will be helpful to read up on it if you ever want to show. Maybe even join a club that can help. Just suggestions to help.
Karen
And regarding the "clean" face look, you should read the SOP for LH. The trend has changed on that. It will be helpful to read up on it if you ever want to show. Maybe even join a club that can help. Just suggestions to help.
Karen
I've read the SOP and the COD for lionheads, probably once a week as I evaluate and re-evaluate my stock. Rabbits can have transition wool no more than 1" in length, but it doesn't say how far into the face it can progress. That being said, those that are placing, have clean faces with little to no transition wool. I feel it is not only important to see what the SOP is, but also to evaluate what is taking home the ribbons. Also, while I hope to join a club in the future, I do not see any point in doing so until I have rabbits ready for the show table, especially when it costs me double what it costs an American.
It is not her first litter. I had to wait for her to wean her previous litter to get her... I'm not sure if that was her first litter, or if she had one before that, though. She was kindled 09/23/2011.
It is not her first litter. I had to wait for her to wean her previous litter to get her... I'm not sure if that was her first litter, or if she had one before that, though. She was kindled 09/23/2011.
ZRabbits
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Bad Habit":2u1ebfr8 said:
I do know what is placing because I am involved with a Club that is very successful in the breed I chose. And don't see the point of actually joining and getting help and knowledge from the Club that is successful in the breed, so you can start on the right foot? I guess I see things differently and wish I was in a better state to continue what I started.
Wishing you luck on finding your way to what you want.
Karen
Well, considering it is already halfway through November, and all of the clubs I have looked at run their membership from Jan - Dec, it is very pointless to join a club now, since I would be paying for a month and a half, if not less, since most are snail mail applications. Especially with this wonderful tool called the internet, where I am able to email any email address I might find and get free advice, or am able to read all the information I can find. It may not seem like much money to someone with financial stability, but when one considers that I am feeding my dog, my rabbits and financing any new rabbits/days of fun through nothing more than the sales of my rabbits, then the costs of $30/year(each, ARBA & NALRC) or 18$ for the DRCBA become comparatively more expensive. That's 3 months of feeding my rabbits & dog if I join them all.
Also, when I do get my rabbits on a show table, I want to know that the work was all mine. That I bought the best I could, bred intelligently, kept back the best, and developed my own lines. Anyone can go out and buy a good rabbit, put it on the table and have it win. I'd rather breed my own, develop a winner that came from base stock that wouldn't have won, and have something to really be proud of.
You're right, though. We have a very different way of seeing things.
Also, when I do get my rabbits on a show table, I want to know that the work was all mine. That I bought the best I could, bred intelligently, kept back the best, and developed my own lines. Anyone can go out and buy a good rabbit, put it on the table and have it win. I'd rather breed my own, develop a winner that came from base stock that wouldn't have won, and have something to really be proud of.
You're right, though. We have a very different way of seeing things.
ZRabbits
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Shame about the clubs in your area. The club I joined doesn't have restrictions. You can join at any time of the year. Heck best $35 I ever spent. And it made it record flat by "snail mail". Much knowledge, by many knowledgeable people giving their experience. Even on the internet, amazing.
And regarding just buying a good bunny, well if you don't learn it is a "hollow" experience. But if you have a mentor who helps you on your way, that good bunny is the best experience and will help you on your way to your own line. That's what Clubs are all about, IMHO.
Wishing you success in your own line. Lots of hard work, lots of frustration, and lots of money goes into producing your own line. It's rewarding, but doesn't happen overnight. Many rewards in hard work.
I guess I see things realistically.
Karen
And regarding just buying a good bunny, well if you don't learn it is a "hollow" experience. But if you have a mentor who helps you on your way, that good bunny is the best experience and will help you on your way to your own line. That's what Clubs are all about, IMHO.
Wishing you success in your own line. Lots of hard work, lots of frustration, and lots of money goes into producing your own line. It's rewarding, but doesn't happen overnight. Many rewards in hard work.
I guess I see things realistically.
Karen
OneAcreFarm
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There are many different ways to achieve what we, as the breeder, want in our lines...whether that be established lines or building our own lines. Everyone's experience and desires are going to be different and that does not mean that one is necessarily any better or more "realistic" than the other. Many rabbit clubs ARE great resources but, if we are honest, there are also many that are just snobby, social clubs that won't accept you if you don't have rabbits from the "right" lines. Choosing to join one is a personal decision and whether you join or not, you can still have a mentor, be a breeder of quality rabbits and generally work to improve the breed.
