Magician has to make "disaster plan" for rabbit as per USDA.

[Kyle@theWintertime]

I could not make this up.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06 ... is-rabbit/

 

[dayna]

Oh my.... Is it because its a working animal? That seems really odd to me.

 

[Miss M]

Wow. Just wow. :shock:

I like a couple of the comments.

Dear USDA, My plan is to eat the rabbit should an emergency situation arise.

Thank you.

So give them a disaster plan:
Step one … grab the rabbit.
Step two … stuff rabbit in shirt.
Step three … run like hell with rabbit to safe location.
Step four … when safe, remove rabbit from shirt.
Step five … give the rabbit a carrot.

See … no big deal.

:lol:

Hey... if you don't laugh, you'll cry.

 

[MamaSheepdog]

Kyle- referencing The Blaze? I knew I liked you for a reason.

WOOT! Three cheers for Glenn Beck! :up:

 

[Mountain Spice]

:laugh2: :lilbunny: :laugh2:

Wait.... Is this a part of Obamacare?? :shock:

 

[HoppinHalfPints]

Kyle- referencing The Blaze? I knew I liked you for a reason.

WOOT! Three cheers for Glenn Beck! :up:

I think my mother would like you a lot.

 

[paradox]

This is the kind of crap that makes me think there is no way to get the government back in its "what you have authority to do under the constitution" box. We have a list of governmental agencies 9 miles long and not a single one of them accountable to any voter. All are run by a bunch of power hungry jerks that don't even have two brain cells to rub together. And apparently they have nothing better to do than stuff like this to try and look busy so they can justify their taxpayer funded pay check. Sorry - I get riled sometimes. I had to edit that a lot, but I think I got it tamed down to a family friendly version.

 

[faiththequeen]

:fainting: Ridiculous.

 

[Random Rabbit]

Sadly, i do believe that USDA actually can demand this. ( as silly as it seems to Normal humans). Magicians using live animals in their acts are covered under the Exhibitor part of the AWA laws. Like zoos and circuses . They must have emergency plans on file to cover disasters. And detailing the care necessary to protect those animals.


Sad to know that residents of Nursing homes have fewer protections than animals in a zoo !!!

 

[Ivory]

What a waste of taxpayers money.

 

[ladysown]

I see the value in this.

Remember. He's a paid entertainer. Which moves him into the class of a professional care giver (such as zoos, entertainment acts and such like).

Forcing people to consider what they will do should disaster strike is not a bad thing to do, and unfortunately if you don't force them to do it, many people won't. For instance, have YOU thought about what you will do should disaster strike. If you need to clear your home quickly have you made plans for how you can escape your house and make it so your animals have the best chance of survival?

We love our critters....but have we made plans for how to care for them if something should happen?

I know I haven't. I just assume that nothing horrid will happen. BUT let's say something did? They are trapped in cages with no recourse but to starve should something happen to me or my family. If I couldn't take them with me (and just HOW does one easily transport 20 rabbits?), I'd be setting cages in the ground and opening them up to let them at least TRY to fend for themselves. I would NOT leave them to starve.

So that is the point of the USDA regulations. To force people to consider what might happen should the worst happen.

 

[Miss M]

I see the value in this.

Remember. He's a paid entertainer. Which moves him into the class of a professional care giver (such as zoos, entertainment acts and such like).

Forcing people to consider what they will do should disaster strike is not a bad thing to do, and unfortunately if you don't force them to do it, many people won't.

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So that is the point of the USDA regulations. To force people to consider what might happen should the worst happen.

You do have a point, but should one guy with one rabbit (or probably two, so he has a backup, just in case) be lumped in with zoos and circuses, which can have dozens to hundreds of exotic animals, many of which would consider children hors d'oeuvres?

A detailed disaster plan, listing all steps to be taken to ensure proper care of the rabbit during and after fire, flood, tornado, etc.... and he and his wife have to be TRAINED for it all? For one rabbit? Or maybe two?

And it doesn't just force him to consider how to deal with disasters. He has to have a written plan in place by such a date, it has to be reviewed by USDA inspectors, and they have to be trained. It's just so out of proportion.

 

[paradox]

I still stand by my earlier rant. I find nothing in the Constitution relegating animal welfare to the Federal Government - therefor it isn't their business. It falls to the state. If his STATE government wants to ask for a plan then they have that right. It is another case of the federal government creating agencies and giving them powers that the federal government does not own. It would be like if I gave you authority to discipline my neighbor's child. I don't have the authority to give you that authority.

 

[WildWolf]

not only does the federal govt not have the authority, but requiring detailed, lengthy, written pages by a certain date is just ridiculous. So, you want people to think about their rabbits in case of an emergency? What's wrong with them, deciding for themselves and not in response to a threat of closing down the business/show, knowing just a simple plan? just knowing that they could do this or that, and it would require this or that. And besides that, as harsh as this might seem, if someone looses their own rabbit during an emergency it is their own loss. It costs them the life of their rabbit and the money put into that rabbit. There are other motivations without the over-reaching govt having to step in.

 

[Jack]

Umm lately I've taken a rather jaundiced view of government
I mean, the IRS was just checking to see if the non-profits were engaging in political activities, that's why....
The EPA suddenly, once it became apparent that Shell would actually win the harassment suits, that they would declare the northern oceans 'different' and rewrite all the disaster stuff... (with special non existent equipment, that hadn't been developed past an idea on paper)

The government is too much in the business of shutting people down, not allowing people to work.
Hell up here in Alaska, the Dep. of Int, shut down a track through a 'wetlands perserve' because Ell Grass is more important than people, which has led to over 30 people dying in boating or aircraft crashes, or WAIT for a break in the weather to go 10 miles to one of the longest runway in Alaska (a designated emergency landing strip built for B52's coming back from Russia in the cold war...)

Yeah, Eel Grass is more important than people...

 

[LauraNJ]

After Sandy last year where a hutch flipped multiple times, with rabbits in it, and my greenhouse was literally snapped from the foundation and thrown into our truck, I have a very solid plan for the rabbits.

My teenager and I had to go out in 80 plus mph winds to rescue rabbits, get food bowls, water bottles, etc and put them in temporary crates and cages. It was far from ideal, we both got clobbered with a huge branch that came down as we were rescuing.

I should have had a plan but didn't. Never imagined the hutch would flip- it is huge weighs several hundred pounds. Sandy tossed it like it was nothing.

We've been warned to expect another hurricane this fall and I am already building appropriate size cages that the rabbits will be transferred to prior to any big storm hitting. We also have a few more trees that we will take down this summer to minimize potential damage to the house.

Sometimes pre-planning is good thing instead of having to react after the fact. Perhaps this article makes some people think and do some planning of their own, make contingency plans.

 

[paradox]

Laura I commend you for recognizing a need to have a plan to square your family and animals away in an emergency. Every individual should do this, as it is part of being a responsible human being. My objection is not to having a plan or even practicing a plan (families do this all the time with fire drills and other things). My objection is that it is none of the Government's business and they most certainly don't get to require a written report as if we were in grade school. There is a HUGE difference between an intelligent person doing something for themselves and the Government forcing someone to do it.

 

[tailwagging]

AKC is now requiring a written plan too.

what worrys me is what if the USDA doesn't like your plan. then what?

 

[Cottie]

AKC is now requiring a written plan too.

what worrys me is what if the USDA doesn't like your plan. then what?

I guess I'd question what they want in the "plan." Is it just an outline? What constitutes a disaster? I can have all the plans in the world in place for a tornado, but dimes to dollars I won't know it's coming until I see it coming towards us. At which point I'll be more concerned with getting my kids to safety than the rabbits.

Plans are a good thing, but it does seem a little paternalistic to require a written submission of what should be common sense. Laura, I'm not saying you didn't exhibit common sense - like you said, you didn't expect the hutch to flip - and now you've adapted based on previous experience. I'm just not sure how someone in my area would write up a full disaster plan when most of our disasters are completely unexpected. Unless, of course, we're supposed to bring our buns to the safety of the basement every time there's the possibility of a tornado (so 4 times per week from late May to August)?

 

[Miss M]

How exactly would one make a disaster plan for 60,000 chickens?

Anyway, I absolutely agree that this is not the federal government's business at all. If anybody should be making laws concerning animals, it should be the states. The 10th amendment hit the incinerator long ago. Most people don't even know it exists.

Yes, we should think about how we would take care of our animals in the event of a disaster. But we should not be having the federal government forcing us to do so.