Lop eared mix???

[luvmybunnys]

My daughter has a Black doe. The lady I bought this rabbit from said it was a lop eared mix. This doesnt make sence to me because her ears are upright. I also asked her what she was mixed with and she said nothing that it was a straight lop eared mix. I havent weighed her but it lookes to be a small, medium sized rabbit. Does anyone have a guess?

 

[Zab]

Not all lop-mixes get lop ears.

A straight mix not mixed wth anything? Well something's mixedup there I have no idea what she is, but she's pretty

 

[MamaSheepdog]

A straight mix not mixed with anything? Well something's mixedup there

:lol: Ditto!

I believe the lopping of the ears has more to do with the shape of the head- purebred lops have a very broad "crown"- your daughter's doe has a narrow crown, so it is highly unlikely that her ears would lop.

She is a very pretty purebred lop eared mix! :roll:

 

[luvmybunnys]

Lol thats what i thought. Do yall have a guess of what she may be?

 

[Dood]

From the picture you posted I guess she's a Mini lop x Californian.

My reasoning is that there are not many Engligh or French lops around so she is likely mini lop, or possibly a Holland and her head shape reminds me of a Californian.

Could you post a side shot to get a better idea of her body type?

 

[Bad Habit]

Maybe the seller meant that she was supposed to be a mix of 2 different lops?

Or maybe the parents were the same breed, but one had lop ears and the other didn't?

 

[ladysown]

looks like the standard mini rex/holland lops that you get around here all the time.

 

[luvmybunnys]

side shot<br /><br />__________ Sun May 19, 2013 12:48 pm __________<br /><br />dont all lops have lop ears tho?

 

[Zab]

Try a picture where we can see her straight from the side and at her level (not from above)

How old?
She kind of looks a bit skinny, how does she feel when you pet her?

All lops have lopped ears, but not all rabbits with one normal parent and one lopped parent gets loppy ears. There are exceptions whn two lops will produce a non-lop kit.. but I think that's fairly rare. At least if the both lops are purebreds.

 

[Dood]

dont all lops have lop ears tho?

No, even lop to lop breedings don't always produce lop ears. The ears must be at a particular spot on the head to lop.

The rabbit has a nice commercial type frame and I don't think she looks skinny. She could be a Cali x lop or Standard Rex x lop, or other combinations, there is no way to know for sure.

The white on her toes suggests she may have Dutch in her background.

 

[luvmybunnys]

Ok thank you very much Dood!

__________ Sun May 19, 2013 1:05 pm __________

the prevous owner said she thought she was 3 yrs. I will go take a better pic.

 

[ladysown]

purebred or not, not all lopped eared rabbits will produce lopped eared kits. It's all in ear placement. It's been my lovely battle this year...I've got a whack of non-lopped eared kits....or better stated... a bunch of airplane eared kits who will lop once they hit about 11 months.

 

[luvmybunnys]

Maybe this is a better side shot.<br /><br />__________ Sun May 19, 2013 1:31 pm __________<br /><br />also her front feet are white. Is that an indication that its not purly one breed?

 

[Zab]

purebred or not, not all lopped eared rabbits will produce lopped eared kits. It's all in ear placement. It's been my lovely battle this year...I've got a whack of non-lopped eared kits....or better stated... a bunch of airplane eared kits who will lop once they hit about 11 months.

I wonder if this can be affected by different breeding standards.. in sweden you can't show a rabbit that's not registered purebred, and you can't register unless both parents and grandparents are sown. Lops can't show without lop ears. So.. with generation after generation of loppy ears (and the right placement I suppose since they're loped), woldn't it be strange if a kit suddenly got standing ears?

But it's of course very possible I'm just wrong

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luvmybunnys: looks like a better picture to me. I still can't tell about the breed though, I'm not that good with different breeds.
The reason I asked about the weigt was because the light sent some strange shadows in the first picture (they reminded me of the thin topline one of my old rabbits had once), but the only way to get a proper idea is by touch so I can't really know and barely even guess

She's a pretty one, nontheless.

 

[skysthelimit]

no, she could carry the vienna gene or be a "booted" broken black. it happens in pure breeds.

Holland lops don't tend to breed true, the crown is one of the hardest things to get right. Two Grand champion parents with lovely crowns won't always produce kits with good crowns, meaning crowns that are so tight ears won't lop. One of the reasons everyone says hollands are hard to breed and compete with.

 

[Dood]

in sweden you can't show a rabbit that's not registered purebred,

that is different to our system and similar to the way our purebred dog shows are run. Over here any rabbit can be shown regardless of its parents.

Even if registration was required, not many people do showing and the majority of rabbits are mixes of whatever is handy so mini and holland lops are often crossed and any rabbits under 5 pounds are frequently interbred.

Around here, I have found any lop or lop cross is called a "Holland lop" regardless of ancestry and have met a few supposedly purebred Hollands that were 5 pounds and horse faced or with ears so long they dragged the ground. They were likely a multi generational lop cross bred for pets and not showing.

 

[Zab]

in sweden you can't show a rabbit that's not registered purebred,

that is different to our system and similar to the way our purebred dog shows are run. Over here any rabbit can be shown regardless of its parents.

Even if registration was required, not many people do showing and the majority of rabbits are mixes of whatever is handy so mini and holland lops are often crossed and any rabbits under 5 pounds are frequently interbred.

Around here, I have found any lop or lop cross is called a "Holland lop" regardless of ancestry and have met a few supposedly purebred Hollands that were 5 pounds and horse faced or with ears so long they dragged the ground. They were likely a multi generational lop cross bred for pets and not showing.

Ah, that may explain it then
We don't concider rabbits ''purebred'' without registration papers (even if the parents are registered.. that's why I can't sell my SPs as purebreds even though both parents have papers). some may call them lops (at least lops since they're easy to recognize) and sell them as lops, but most people who have done their research won't buy it as a purebred without papers.

 

[luvmybunnys]

Thank yall very much for the knowledge. I have alot to learn