Identify my bunnies!

[Cottie]

Pictures should be fixed. *fingers crossed*

:bunnyhop:

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These three are supposed to be Cali/Rex mixes. Purchased as meat mutts. 5 months old

Skipper - male, 5lb 4oz


Minnow - female, 5lb 10oz


Mrs Howell - female, 5lb 8oz, already had one litter of 6 (all died)


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These three are supposed to be NZs. 4 months old

Gilligan - male, 4lb 2oz


Ginger - female, 6lb, I believe she's pregnant because she's gotten REALLY FAT in the last 2 weeks


MartyAnn - male, deceased, initially improperly sexed as a female ("MaryAnn") and housed with Ginger


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These 4 were purchased for my daughters' 4H projects. Sold as mini-lops. Uncertain on genders. I think I got bum rabbits, because their genitals are very small and hard to judge. 3 months, 3 weeks

Lop 1 - sold as a female, 3lb
Lop 2 - sold as a female, 2lb 10oz
Lop 3 - sold as a female, 3lb 5oz, in quarantine currently
Gray Lop - sold as a male, 2lb 15oz

I just took pictures of all of them, because I can't find distinguishing features between 1, 2 and 3.



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These are my oldest daughter's, in lieu of an angora while she gets acclimated to fiber arts. They were purchased a Jersy Woolies, but I think they're actually lionheads. 2 months.

White Lorax - I believe female, 1lb 7oz


Gray Lorax - I believe male, 1lb 3oz

 

[Bad Habit]

Your pictures are really messed up...

 

[Cottie]

I fixed it. I don't know why it happened, as I added them as I typed. Technology fail.

 

[amandainohio24]

The last 2 definitely look like a lionhead or at least a lionhead mix.

 

[Demamma]

I agree with the last being lionhead. I am not sure of the New Zealand's. I would wonder about their weights.

 

[Cottie]

They do seem small for NZs at that age. Everything I read on them had me expecting them to all be 6-7 pounds by now.

I'm also curious what their "official" colors are. Skipper is almost 100% black, but he has white hairs on his back. Minnow has the same white hairs, but she also has patches of...chocolate?...throughout her fur.

 

[Ivory]

Ginger definitely looks pregnant.

I like the look of the first two, but I'd like to see them a little heavier, can't help with the breed ID though.

Last one definitely looks like a lionhead.

 

[Cottie]

Don't they seem a little thin? I've been free-feeding them up until 2 days ago, when it was suggested I ration my buck to get him in the mood to breed.

 

[Prisma]

The crosses look as said, maybe some NZ influence in them. But the ones that are supposed to be just NZ don't look it to me, should be much bigger and look like they've got some thing else in them, structure isn't quite right plus NZ do not come in those colors normally, broken tort and broken what appears to be an off chestnut with the ear/eye markings...harder to tell but it doesn't look like typically broken smutty red which nz are recognized in. Second with the last, those are Lions or lion/?. The mini lops look like mini lops but need to get them posed to get proper look at them but the chin (gray boy) looks like has the best width by far compared to others. They look like a healthy bunch though, clean coats and eyes

 

[Cottie]

Thanks, Rebel. Any chance you could let me know the colors of the others? I've been looking into breeding results and don't know what to call Gray Lorax or Lops 1,2&3. Are Skipper/Minnow still considered black, even though they have errant white furs or chocolate patches?

I guess healthy is all I can ask as a starting point. It's a good place to be and stay, as I can refine my herd from here.

The lops are destined to be bred with Gilligan. I wanted to breed them with Skipper, but the weight is just too far off and I don't think I'll get good results. I'm going to breed some with Gilligan and some (God willing I have a male in either the lops or the lions) with the lions. I want a rabbit with enough meat for a meal and bones for soup, but with a lusher, more visually appealing coat - something in the 4.5 to 5.5 lb range with a coat similar in texture to the lops.

My concern is Gilligan came from a litter that had a full albino, and I don't know how that gene will be transferred. All I can do it breed, select, breed, select and see where it gets me.

 

[Prisma]

Chestnut and Chinchilla are the lops. It'll be a while yet before they're breeding ready. If you can get a face shot of Ginger, might help more with her color, or does she not have any nose markings? I'm sure there's others here that would be more helpful color wise. The one lion looks to be a dark siamese sable, as ages may lighten some. Minnow and Skipper probably aren't true blacks for my guess, but its hard to tell exactly what. Some colors like seal and self chin can appear black and be hard to tell apart from blacks...some thing I have a lot of trouble with and I end up with quite a few of those depending on the breed (lions I have seals, self chins in holland lops only reason I know is because of breedings and pedigrees).

 

[Cottie]

Ginger doesn't have markings on her face. That's how we told her and Gilligan apart before we learned how to accurately sex them.

 

[Dood]

Skipper and Minnow are black even though they have scattered white hairs. Ms Howell is also a black but with an English broken gene adding white blotches. If she is 5lb 8oz and has already had a litter it is highly likely she and the other two are California crossed with a Mini Rex(3-5lb) and not a Standard Rex (8-11lbs)

Gilligan is a Broken Tortoiseshell and Ginger could be a Broken Red/orange/fawn or possibly a Chocolate Agouti, it is hard to tell for certain but it looks like she has a light brown eye and more colour extension in her fur than a true red. Tort and chocolate are not accepted colours in New Zealands but Red is. They are quite small for purebred New Zealands as they should weigh at least 4 pounds at 2 months old and closer to 8lb at 4 months old.

Marty Ann is a Ruby Eyed White

As stated by another memeber, the Mini Lops are 2 chestnut(brown) and 1 chincilla(grey. The breed can weigh between 4.5 and 6.5 pounds so your three 4 month olds should be within this range as adults.

White Lorax is a Ruby Eyed White and I cannot tell if she is a JW or LH but Grey Lorax does look like a LionHead to me and his looks like a black to me but it may just be a trick of the lighting and he could be a very dark blue (dilute)

 

[Cottie]

If they're not NZs...then what are they?

I've bought myself some trouble here.

 

[Dood]

If they're not NZs...then what are they?

Just mutts.

Does it matter? What are your plans for them?

 

[Cottie]

If they're not NZs...then what are they?

Just mutts.

Does it matter? What are your plans for them?

Meat. I had planned on breeding them to what our family needs as kind of a weird hobby. Just not sure how I'm going to do that effectively if I don't know what I'm working with. Not that I knew how I would do it anyway, just seems cleaner data is always a better place to start. :lol:

 

[Dood]

Well all rabbits taste the same and I have eaten Mini Lop.

But if it takes 4 months to get to 5 pounds you are spending a lot more on rabbit food to grow them out than if they can get to 5 pounds in 8-12 weeks.

I would find a 4-6 month old breeding buck, who is at least 7-9 pounds, from a beefy meat breed ie: California, NZ, AmChin, Silver Fox, Standard Rex or whatever is available, and cross him on your does and go from there. Keep back the meatiest and fastest growing does and breed these to their father and keep going until your happy.

 

[Devon's Mom Lauren]

If all those rabbits came from the same "breeder" then i would never ever buy from them again. That is 0 for 3 on what they claim!

 

[SilverDesertRabbitry]

Pictures should be fixed. *fingers crossed*

:bunnyhop:

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These three are supposed to be Cali/Rex mixes. Purchased as meat mutts. 5 months old

Skipper - male, 5lb 4oz
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Minnow - female, 5lb 10oz
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Mrs Howell - female, 5lb 8oz, already had one litter of 6 (all died)
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These three are supposed to be NZs. 4 months old

Gilligan - male, 4lb 2oz
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Ginger - female, 6lb, I believe she's pregnant because she's gotten REALLY FAT in the last 2 weeks
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MartyAnn - male, deceased, initially improperly sexed as a female ("MaryAnn") and housed with Ginger
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These 4 were purchased for my daughters' 4H projects. Sold as mini-lops. Uncertain on genders. I think I got bum rabbits, because their genitals are very small and hard to judge. 3 months, 3 weeks

Lop 1 - sold as a female, 3lb
Lop 2 - sold as a female, 2lb 10oz
Lop 3 - sold as a female, 3lb 5oz, in quarantine currently
Gray Lop - sold as a male, 2lb 15oz

I just took pictures of all of them, because I can't find distinguishing features between 1, 2 and 3.
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These are my oldest daughter's, in lieu of an angora while she gets acclimated to fiber arts. They were purchased a Jersy Woolies, but I think they're actually lionheads. 2 months.

White Lorax - I believe female, 1lb 7oz
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Gray Lorax - I believe male, 1lb 3oz

The first two are probably New Zealand or Satin crosses. The 5 lb broken black doe is a Havana. With the NZs..The first broken is NOT a New Zealand. New Zealands do not come in Broken Tort. The Broken Red and the solid White are New Zealands. The lops are Mini Lops. The last two are actually Lionheads.

~SDR