How to get experieced buck to mate

[mystang89]

That's my question. This buck is a great proven buck. Sired 3 other litters and is about 2 years old. Great personality and all.

I made the mistake of not rebreeding immediately after weening and now he doesn't even want to try and they aren't raising. What can I do to get his libido going? I've been trying each day for about 1 1/2 weeks but no one wants to do anything.

I've checked the readiness of the does each time and they are pale pink to white so I know what to expect from them before I put them in there but he could at least still try. Two of the does are turning 5 months so the are completely knew to this. I'm ok with them not being ready though, just trying to introduce them. The experienced buck throws me for a loop though.

 

[OneAcreFarm]

How are they weight wise? Have they put on a bit of weight?

 

[mystang89]

How are they weight wise? Have they put on a bit of weight?

The experienced buck is about 9.5 lbs along with the experience doe. The other 5 month old does are..(goes to weigh them)...between 5 and 5 1/2 lbs which seems a small to me but their back bones aren't spiky or anything like that. Nice plump and pretty imho.

 

[Disney]

Try giving them ACV for 1/2 week.

None of my does were receptive since august until end of january, they ignored him and just sat there, he tried without any effort so i gave them acv in their water and a few drops on their pellets, 2 days past and the doe's started chasing eachother, some were restless so i put them with the buck and they lifted and he bred them succesfully for the first time.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQMRYPltu0[/youtube]

 

[mystang89]

Would the ACV get him to want to breed to? I've heard that it helps with the does as far as getting them to lift. I guess if you think about it though it would make since that if it helps a doe lift it helps a buck.

 

[Disney]

Would the ACV get him to want to breed to? I've heard that it helps with the does as far as getting them to lift. I guess if you think about it though it would make since that if it helps a doe lift it helps a buck.

Yup, the doe's make the decision after all, if they don't want to then the party is off and this usually discourages timid bucks like mine.
I tried to breed them in august/september many times, each each day and tried multiple doe's but it didn't work. The girls weren't interested anymore since the weather was getting colder and falls was coming.

Tried again end of january again with a bew and broken opal doe when the snow was melting and the girls still ignored him.
He tried to mount them but he would stop after 2 seconds of trying, he just couldn't do it and sorta gave up.
I added a video in my previous post, you can see the bew doe lifting, leading to 2 succesfull matings in 2 minutes. This is the same doe who refused to lift or coöperated a few days prior. Just gave them acv and their hormones wen't crazy.
Even the youngest and lowest rank doe in the colony chased the neuetered back to tell him she was ready, she lifted like a cat, all the way up and then i stopped with the acv.

I also gave acv to the buck to boost his energy levels.

 

[mystang89]

Thanks Disney. I think I'll get the ACV and also show the vid to my buck. Maybe that will spark his memory and he'll do what he's supposed to

 

[Dood]

My sisters mini lop buck lives in the house and is mostly a pet, so sometimes he doesn't 'get down to busines' right away. Her solution is to bring him out to my rabbit barn and let's him run around the room and 'show off' around my two bucks. Once she brings him back in he doesn't hesitate.

My theory is he doesn't want the other boys to get her.

 

[Disney]

Oh and a tip.

Normally when a doe is receptive and wants to be bred, she will chase and mount the buck first to let him know she means it, so if you mirror this event, it will have the same wanted effect. Put your doe on top of your buck and let her mount him, that will fire him up and give your buck the motivation an boost that he needs!

 

[akane]

I've checked the readiness of the does each time and they are pale pink to white

I've found experienced bucks know when does aren't ready and not to bother them. If your does are pale pink and not in condition your buck will not try to breed them. I bet you $100 you get the does in condition he'll be on them in seconds. He knows his job and he's doing it by not bothering does who aren't in condition. I actually have a netherland buck who I test does with. If he immediately starts trying to breed them they are ready and I pop them out quick before he can do anything more. If they just groom each other and hop around I know not to bother trying with my other bucks.

 

[mystang89]

I've checked the readiness of the does each time and they are pale pink to white

I've found experienced bucks know when does aren't ready and not to bother them. If your does are pale pink and not in condition your buck will not try to breed them. I bet you $100 you get the does in condition he'll be on them in seconds. He knows his job and he's doing it by not bothering does who aren't in condition. I actually have a netherland buck who I test does with. If he immediately starts trying to breed them they are ready and I pop them out quick before he can do anything more. If they just groom each other and hop around I know not to bother trying with my other bucks.

I guess that is where the "experience comes in at. But I've read people say that you let the buck have their "go" at the doe and in a few days the doe will be more receptive because something about it let's there egg down..or something like that. I probably just don't understand it at all.

 

[akane]

Sometimes exposure to a buck can increase readiness. It's much more effective to house the doe next to the buck though than put them in repeatedly.

 

[catfishingpokey]

Do you keep your buck where he can see the does?

 

[skysthelimit]

Do you keep your buck where he can see the does?

I always wonder what people consider close. I only have a 8x 12 room, basically there is maybe five feet or less between the fronts of the cages, and does and bucks are cross the way if not side by side. I can smell those guys when I walk into the barn, I bet the does smell them just as well, and the opposite. Is everyone else keeping bucks separated from does?

 

[mystang89]

My experienced buck is right next to the experienced doe. The other 2 does are in the cage next to theirs.

 

[ollitos]

When my experienced buck was next to a doe all the time, he quit trying to breed. Now I keep my does and bucks far apart. As soon as my bucks see me coming, they run into their hutches so they can meet their girlfriend du jour. They are very eager now. LOL

 

[ohiogoatgirl]

hahahaha @ ollitos
kinda funny cause i have a pair together about 3 wks now, that doe STILL isnt bred even with ACV in the water. and he was extremely excited to breed some does yesterday and today! hahahahaha

 

[catfishingpokey]

I keep my bucks away from my does and it works for me. Last fall I had my buck with does all around him and he got lazy. So I moved him away and put him in another barn 2 days later he was ready for action. So l guess the old saying absence makes the heart grow fonder is right.

 

[MamaSheepdog]

Before passing judgement on the buck, I would wait until the does are obviously ready to be bred. If he still shows no interest, he may need to lose a little weight or he might be lacking vitamins A & E.

 

[ollitos]

Barry White?