Help with these Lionheads

[ckcs]

What color would you say these rabbits are? Jose is the Sire of Twinkie (DM) and HOHO. I'm assuming HOHO is a black and white broken. Jose is around 4 years old maybe older. Twinkie and HoHo are 9 weeks.
JOSE

TWINKIE

HOHO

TWINKIE AND HOHO

 

[Bad Habit]

Jose is a chestnut, Twinkie is an orange, and Hoho is a broken black.

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You want to ship Hoho to me

 

[ckcs]

Jose is a chestnut, Twinkie is an orange, and Hoho is a broken black.

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You want to ship Hoho to me

Thank you for the response. Are fawn and orange similar or interchangeable terms? We all fell in love with HoHo right away. My daughter wanted to keep him but we are putting them up for sale in the next day or two.

 

[Bad Habit]

Do you deliver to Canada? XD

I believe it's properly called Red in Lionheads. I'm not too positive about interchanging the colour terms, I just don't know enough about that yet

 

[Dreamerz]

Beautiful Buns !

Does Twinkie have darker pigment on it's ears & nose ? In the pictures it looks like it does.
If it does then it most likely is a Tort, not an orange.

My Tort. Doe (DM) ~ Caramel

 

[Bad Habit]

Twinkie looks identical to my smutty orange lionhead doe.

 

[Dood]

JOSE is a chestnut and I believe he also carries the steel gene making him darker along the belly, around the eyes and in the mane. Since he has a black daughter, he must carry the black(self) gene.

TWINKY does look more like a fawn to me than a tort. Do you know the colour of her mother and their other littermates?

HOHO looks like a broken black

 

[ckcs]

Do you deliver to Canada? XD

I believe it's properly called Red in Lionheads. I'm not too positive about interchanging the colour terms, I just don't know enough about that yet

I wish I could, I'd love to see him go to a nice home

Beautiful Buns !

Does Twinkie have darker pigment on it's ears & nose ? In the pictures it looks like it does.
If it does then it most likely is a Tort, not an orange.

Thank you !!! Yes she has darker hair around the nose, ears and parts of her face

JOSE is a chestnut and I believe he also carries the steel gene making him darker along the belly, around the eyes and in the mane. Since he has a black daughter, he must carry the black(self) gene.

TWINKY does look more like a fawn to me than a tort. Do you know the colour of her mother and their other littermates?

HOHO looks like a broken black

Here are two pictures of mama (Baby Cakes). She has only had 3 babies, 1 was stillborn and the other 2 are HoHo and Twinkie. She should kindle tonight as she is pulling fur and working on the nest. It appears that she will be having them on the wire, ignoring the nestbox once again.

 

[Wyldrose]

Momma looks broken tort to me.

 

[Dood]

I agree with Wyldrose, she looks like a broken Tort and is a false Charlie (only has 1 broken gene) since she had a solid kit.

This doesn't help much with determining Twinkies colour as a fawn and tort are genetically the same except the fawn has an agouti gene. Jose could have donated either an agouti or self to her.

BUT

Since Baby Cakes is a very dark tort I suspect her daughter Twinky is actually a fawn who has alot of sootyness.