Hay haters

Rabbit Talk  Forum

Help Support Rabbit Talk Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Secuono

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 5, 2011
Messages
5,625
Reaction score
2,035
Location
Virginia
Ugh, they are driving me up the wall! I used 1/2x1in wire in an L shape to hold hay, the open side of the L attaches to the wire wall[1x1in]. The other side of the hutch has the hay in the same spot, so it looks like a W. They are about 7in or so off the ground, wire goes up another 4-5in. Top and two short sides are not wired closed. If I had the hay any higher, they would ignore it, 7in was almost too much of a stretch for them to get to, ugh.

The doe loves to jump into the hay rack....she taught the buck to do this, too. So now both of them love to sit in there, pooping and peeing all over.

Makes it worse that the doe is a nut, she empties the hay and shoves it down through the floor. Every morning ALL the hay she HAD I find on the ground under the hutch!!

They are wasting so much hay, it's really pissing me off. The buck isn't as bad.
Doe has two boxes right now, cardboard box full of hay, which she uses as a toilet and the metal nest box. It has nothing but paper towels on the bottom now. When I did add a bit of hay, you guessed it, she would piss and sh*t in there like a nut.

She hasn't gone into the nest much, just once to piss in it..of course. The buck loves to have a box w/hay to potty in, too, but I hate wasting hay. He will have to get over it. Doe only has two boxes because she is crazy, once the kits don't need a nest, both boxes will be gone.

Actually, if she doesn't care for the kits that are due sometime this week, there won't be a crazy hay hating doe problem. She will be dinner!

How do you clean the wood and metal nest box of urine?? I've just been spraying it with Lysol and calling it a day.

How should I redo the hay racks so they cannot get in, but is still easy for me to fill?
Should I make it smaller or taller?


In general, they don't seem to like hay at all. I won't try other hay's for them, they get what everyone else gets, period. It's some kind of horse quality hay, if you are wondering, not sure of the exact mix. They LOVE fresh pulled grass, they go nuts for it. I put it through the top gap and the doe just sits there under all the grass that has fallen onto her, happily stuffing her face.
 
Why don't you attach the hay rack to the outside of the cages? I just started feeding hay recently and need to figure something out also- the waste drives me crazy. We have horses and goats to feed too, and the last 48 bales we got were $19 each! <GASP!>
 
No rain/snow cover from the outside, don't see how they will get all the hay either.
Maybe I can leave just one short side open, close the top and other short side? That might work...
But they still pull and dump the hay for kicks or something...
 
I have my hay-racks on the outside of the cages and I always have.
I guess it's just what they get used to! I also give a limited amount,
just a handful or two. You may be placing your nestboxes in their potty corner.
Try a different location and see if that helps. Some rabbits are just Pigs
and there is nothing you can do about.
Ottersatin. :eek:ldtimer:
 
Oh no, any corner, any mid area, any spot in the middle of the cage, all is her toilet....they also poo in their water from time to time...
 
Please make sure to thoroughly rinse the Lysol so it doesn't harm the rabbits. Diluted bleach is a better all-purpose cleaner and is much easier to rinse off.
 
I rarely use anything stronger than white vinegar. I try to follow that with a few days in the sunshine. UV kills a lot of germs. Unless you have had a rabbit in the cage that was ill there is no reason I can see to get too worried about sanitizing. Cleaning, the way one would clean one's house or wash one's dishes should be plenty.
 
We switched to what we are calling hay silos instead of hay racks because of the cage space they took up and the amount of waste some rabbits accomplished. We now bend wire in to a circle or semi circle. Then we put a piece of wire over one end. They sit vertically with either the full circles inside the big cages on the floor or the half circles attached on the outside against the wall of the cage. We also made a big one that is about 1x1x2h' for the colony which is more square. The rabbits have to pull the hay out through the wire and they can't get in the hay silos. The hay also falls down from the top making it so days or even weeks worth of hay can be put in a hay silo without taking up much cage space and with little waste. One of my bucks does still manage to pull at his hay from the bottom layer and drop each mouthful on the floor over a course of 2 days but it has worked for the rest and the colony rabbits clean his up now that they no longer have loose hay to waste themselves.
 
if those two rabbits are that repeatedly filthy I'd feed them to something. I dislike caring for messy rabbits. If she kindles, give one of her kits to another doe to raise (one that is nice and neat) so that the kit will learn good housekeeping skills.
 
ChickiesnBunnies":2ohvlh64 said:
Bleach does not kill viruses.

Actually it does....here is a list of the organisms that it will kill...

Bacteria
Staphylococcus aureus (Staph.)
Salmonella choleraesuis
Pseudomonas aeruginosa
Streptococcus pyogenes (Strep.)
Escherichia coli O157:H7 (E. coli)
Shigella dysenteriae
Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA)
Fungi
Trichophyton mentagrophytes (can cause Athlete’s Foot)
Candida albicans (a yeast)
Viruses
Rhinovirus Type 17 (a type of virus that can cause colds)
Influenza A (Flu virus)
Hepatitis A virus
Rotavirus
Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV)
HIV-1 (Human Immunodeficiency Virus)*
Herpes simplex Type 2
Rubella virus
Adenovirus Type 2
Cytomegalovirus

* For health care settings only.

To disinfect: Use 3/4 cup of Clorox® Regular-Bleach per gallon of water. Wash, wipe or rinse items with water, then apply bleach solution. Let stand 5 minutes. Rinse thoroughly and air dry.
 
most rabbits dont like the smell of lysol and im not sure its safe too use around bunnies.
 
I use hydrogen peroxide on surfaces in the house as a disinfectant- I think bleach is too toxic, plus it smells. But when using bleach, a 1 to 10 dilution is the standard, I believe.
 
Bleach is not harmful at all by the time it dries. Even if you don't rinse it off it just leaves a harmless salt residue. I do prefer vinegar though and some studies have found it kills as many things as bleach. Being acidic instead of alkaline like bleach it also tends to work better to remove urine stains left by most animals.
 
She doesn't notice the Lysol, it's now her...um, napping/sitting area...I guess. Tossed out the cardboard box, it was gross. Made a new nestbox the other day, since she was due yesterday. She hasn't been in there at all yet.

As for the hay issue. I flipped them so they are vertical, but I think 1/2in by 1in is too small. Guess I need to cut out some bigger squares for them to pull hay out of.
 
ChickiesnBunnies":npdtn0t5 said:
She doesn't notice the Lysol, it's now her...um, napping/sitting area...I guess. Tossed out the cardboard box, it was gross. Made a new nestbox the other day, since she was due yesterday. She hasn't been in there at all yet.

As for the hay issue. I flipped them so they are vertical, but I think 1/2in by 1in is too small. Guess I need to cut out some bigger squares for them to pull hay out of.

I made mine out of 1 x 2 leftover cage wire...they work well.
 
just to put my two cents in . I have hay racks made out of dollar tree organizer baskets attached to the outside of the cage by zip ties. these help keep waste down and I just sweep the floor to pick up discarded hay. check out my pictures on my web and you can see them.
 
Hah! I am daily raking out the "wasted" hay and feeding it to the goats! They are notorious hay wasters themselves, so I am letting them pick through the bunnie's leftovers and it is working out great.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top