Guessing Color Genotypes - Please help!

[breezy1316]

Howdy! I have a black tort holland lop named Scout <3 I have his pedigree and it says his mom was a chocolate and his dad was a chocolate magpie... so how is Scout a black tort with two chocolate based parents?? Is there a mistake with the pedigree?

 

[Shea]

Do you have a picture of him?

 

[SixGun]

If he is truly a black tort (aaB_C_D_ee) then yes, he can't be out of two choc parents. Choc self (aabbC_D_E_) and Choc magpie (A_bbcchdD_ej_). No big "B"s, so as you say, no possible for black.

 

[breezy1316]

Do you have a picture of him?

This is a picture of him, I included the tail picture because i think you can see his color pretty good!

 

[breezy1316]

Do you have a picture of him?

Also this is a picture I have of his mom, she's supposed to be chocolate

 

[breezy1316]

If he is truly a black tort (aaB_C_D_ee) then yes, he can't be out of two choc parents. Choc self (aabbC_D_E_) and Choc magpie (A_bbcchdD_ej_). No big "B"s, so as you say, no possible for black.

See thats what I thought so I'm wondering what happened, is the pedigree wrong do you think? I only have a picture of his chocolate mom sadly.
Here is a picture of him:



And here is his chocolate mom:

 

[Shea]

I would say a problem with his pedigree then. Probably a different sire then whats listed if you are sure the chocolate is his mom.

 

[MuddyFarms]

Is it at all possible he could be a chocolate tort? I was looking at the pictures and it seemed like he is more black, but not sure with the lighting if perhaps he is just a darker chocolate tort.

 

[MuddyFarms]

Is it at all possible he could be a chocolate tort? I was looking at the pictures and it seemed like he is more black, but not sure with the lighting if perhaps he is just a darker chocolate tort.

Hey @breezy1316 - What do you think? You might have the best idea on that since you can see him in natural lighting.

 

[SableSteel]

He looks black tort to me.

 

[breezy1316]

Hey @breezy1316 - What do you think? You might have the best idea on that since you can see him in natural lighting.

I definitely think he is a black tort. I’ve looked at a lot of pictures and chocolate torts look so much lighter than him

 

[MuddyFarms]

He looks black tort to me.

I definitely think he is a black tort. I’ve looked at a lot of pictures and chocolate torts look so much lighter than him

Great, thanks to both of you.