Genes for blue eyes and Vienna genes

[Disney]

Here are some vienna's of mine.

I had 2 litters out of a rew doe and bew buck, the kits showed very little vienna markings.
Some didn't have any white markings at all like the black harlequin in the first litter.
The blue harlequin has just a white snip and a band on one side of his shoulder.
And the left one is either a black harlequin charlie or a false charlie.
Atleast one of the parents carries broken or maybe both of them.

Here is the second litter from the same combination, rew doe and bew buck.
2 were solid without any white markings and the other 2 looked like regular broken without exessive white, which is weird to me but this is controlled by invisible modifiers.
Some vienna markeds give kits with lots of white and less color and some have kits with less markings like a small snip on the nose and a blaze.
Normally when a rabbit gets the broken and vienna gene, it tends to look like a charlie because the vienna gene adds more white to the coat and erases color, shifting the genetic broken kit to a charlie looking kit and sometimes these kits come out as a hotot with blue eyes. Exactly like the 2 whites with eye bands in JesiccaR's picture!
dutch + broken gene = hotot
vienna + broken gene = hotot with blue eyes
You could say the the only difference between a dutch and vienna are the blue eyes, the markings are almost identical and appear in the same way.

 

[Bad Habit]

OH MY GOODNESS!!!! I love the one who's got a white head, blue body

 

[Disney]

OH MY GOODNESS!!!! I love the one who's got a white head, blue body

Sadly he passed away but i have 2 daughters of him, 1 is pregnant now.
And 2 granddaughters, also 1 pregnant.

I tried to get offspring looking like him but didn't get any last year, hopefully this year!
His daughter and granddaughter are pregnant of a promising buck who looks a lot like him, so much that i think they might be related some how, could have been brothers. :shock:
If i can't get kits like him out of these litters then i might believe that santa is real. :lol:

Vienna marked black tort.

 

[Bad Habit]

Weird, I had a blue vienna buck who passed away, and he never threw as much colour as he had either. I only have one daughter of his, but I'm planning on keeping a granddaughter of his(the magpie), and hopefully a son from one of his last litters (I have two does who were bred to him shortly before he passed.)

Dobby

Hannah, his daughter. She just has a snip.

Her kits, Holly and Pie.

Crystal, she has the tiniest bit of white between her lips.

This little doe is out of Crystal and vienna marked(hard to see in that pic, but she's got white on her left toes and up her leg).

This litter is by Snow(Crystal's son), out of Hannah. I have one other vienna noted down in my records, but I think there are more.

 

[squidpop]

This has just got me all excited for the Vienna genes. There's something magical about the blue eyes on a rabbit.

 

[Bad Habit]

Dobby had a really awesome eye. One half was nice clear blue, the other half was a blue grey colour. You can just see it in that pic.

 

[Disney]

Her kits, Holly and Pie.

WOW, i'm in love with Pie, that white bal on his face is just mystifying, i've never seen that kind of marking.
What does the sire look like? I need to know!

I don't know if im blind but i cant recognise Hannah's color, she looks half siamese sable and half chinchilla.. what is she? Or sable martin?

 

[Bad Habit]

Lol she's Hannah. Her parents were Dobby(blue vienna) and Lily(harlequin). She had siblings that were harlequin, blue harlequin, siamese sable, smoke pearl, chinchilla, opal and chestnut. She's either Blue Chinchilla, or Smoke Pearl Chin. When bred to a blue harlequin vienna(full brother, she was accidentally bred then returned), she had a bew, a blue vienna that looked like Dobby, and an opal that looked just like Pie. I think blue chinchilla, because she has produced chinchilla and magpie... Though she's also produced smoke pearl.

The sire of Pie was supposed to be a broken chestnut however I strongly suspect that she bred both the buck I intentionally put her with, and Dobby, who was in the cage next to her with only wire between them. There are 2 kits who are larger than the others, with bigger ears and thicker manes.

 

[Disney]

Lol she's Hannah. Her parents were Dobby(blue vienna) and Lily(harlequin). She had siblings that were harlequin, blue harlequin, siamese sable, smoke pearl, chinchilla, opal and chestnut. She's either Blue Chinchilla, or Smoke Pearl Chin. When bred to a blue harlequin vienna(full brother, she was accidentally bred then returned), she had a bew, a blue vienna that looked like Dobby, and an opal that looked just like Pie. I think blue chinchilla, because she has produced chinchilla and magpie... Though she's also produced smoke pearl.

The sire of Pie was supposed to be a broken chestnut however I strongly suspect that she bred both the buck I intentionally put her with, and Dobby, who was in the cage next to her with only wire between them. There are 2 kits who are larger than the others, with bigger ears and thicker manes.

Hm interesting, she has too much yellow pigment to be chinchilla for my taste but i'm not sure.
Or she could be chinchilla carrying shaded to produce both? What i do know is that chinchillafied magies are dark black with white where shaded magpies are lighter, greyish white, they have less eumelanin and show less black pigment.
Shaded do show yellow pigment like sable points and siamese sables, cystal for example. So i'm leaning towards smoke pearl chin, but i still don't get the yellow siamese sable coloring on her sides and manes.

You will find out what she is by breeding her to a rew, both her c-genes will come forward and show their true colors.

 

[Bad Habit]

I don't have a rew, and I don't really like them, or want them around, lol.

I'm not too worried about it. Her line is strictly pets, so incorrect colour doesn't really matter. She is staying around because she's just such a sweetheart, and her babies are always good natured and adorable.

 

[Therese]

Some of my American Chinchillas have light blue/grey eyes. When I get a white baby, it is a REW. Does this preclude the Vienna Gene?

 

[ladysown]

The blue of vienna is different than the blue of Chinchilla. Chinchilla don't carry the vienna gene (at least they aren't supposed to). If you are occasionally getting REW I'd have to wonder what else is hiding in them

 

[Therese]

Thank you! Would the "c" gene in American Chinchilla rabbits cause REW kits?