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Ended up at a Brittish Giant rabbit site and found a "sallanders". Beautiful color and pattern! All the sites are not in English...

Anyone know if the US has anything like this?

It's almost like they are saying Salls and Thurs are the breed and not color name.


http://www.arche-reservat-holle.de/html/sallander.html

Gray is the Sallanders, brown is thuringers.
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Aren't they gorgeous. That is the breed and a color name derived from the breed. I have not found a breeder in the US yet,but I found an article when I was trying to find out how sable rides on the chin gene. They're saying it's like a torted chin, and just thinking about the genetics of that makes my mind dizzy!
 
I need a Sallender, I NEED a Sallander, I MUST HAVE a Sallender! :twisted:
 
Anyone planning a trip to England any time soon? We could import them... :pilot:
 
hahahaha this sounds like its been a bit of gas on a rabitosis fire


*i want the brown one <3 :D *
 
The link provided says they are aaB-chd-D-ee................

I'm gonna hit up my genetically-minded folk and ask what I need to make this happen. :D I have a little Tort lop...so I've got non-extension...........

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOLLANDS IN THAT COLOR??????????????????????????????? :p :p :p

Want want want want want. :lol:
 
Kyle@theHeathertoft":24m7y6jg said:
The link provided says they are aaB-chd-D-ee................

I'm gonna hit up my genetically-minded folk and ask what I need to make this happen. :D I have a little Tort lop...so I've got non-extension...........

CAN YOU IMAGINE HOLLANDS IN THAT COLOR??????????????????????????????? :p :p :p

Want want want want want. :lol:


I'm still trying to imagine hollands that breed, any color...
 
MamaSheepdog":2o6cy94q said:
I need a Sallender, I NEED a Sallander, I MUST HAVE a Sallender! :twisted:
LOL! Here we go again! :popcorn:

What interesting coloring!!
 
Not so much, I think we are focusing on the very unique color pattern on them, not just general color and shape.
 
ChickiesnBunnies":9ja7dm6b said:
Not so much, I think we are focusing on the very unique color pattern on them, not just general color and shape.

That is EXACTLY what has my attention...there's almost a wave-pattern on the flank, really attractive!!!!! Of course I'm biased, Tort is my favorite "color" so seeing the tort expressed on a silver-and-gray rabbit is...well it's amazing!!!!!!

Want want want. :x
 
I was thinking Tort too, the first time I saw them. But they do have such a unique pattern. Definitely looks like waves.

Karen
 
From what I found looking into a few websites, they are (color-wise, anyways) genetically Chinchillas with non-extension, aka Tort.

According to some articles, the Sallanders are aaB-chd-D-ee. Hypothetical situation...I have a buck who is black tort, or aaB-C-D-ee. If I could find a Chinchilla doe (I think A_B_Cchd_D_E) how would I go about creating the Sallander's color? How many (or how few) generations and breedbacks would it take?

There's either a 50% OR a 100% chance of expressed Agouti, depending on the doe (if she's AA, then it's 100% since kits from AA x aa would be Aa...but if she's Aa, then only 50%) and with both having dominant Black (BB or Bb, if they are both Bb then it's still 75% Black, 25% Brown...but if one is BB then 100% Black base) the odds are getting better. If the buck is CC, then there's a 50% chance of Chinchilla...if he's got anything else hidden behind that C, though, that could throw a wrench into things. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

The sticking point is that the non extension/Tort (ee) is recessive...so all the kits would get an e from the sire. It would then depend on the doe...if she were Ee, then there's a 50% chance of non-extension and therefore, a slim chance of the desired outcome in the first generation!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Indeed even if it doesn't happen on the first generation, if she has Ee, it is still a possibility in future litters.

If she's EE, then it's gonna take another generation bred back to the sire. In that case, any Chinchilla offspring the doe has will be Ee for sure, and thus 50% of the second gen doe's offspring with the sire buck will be ee.



..........................................not that I'm considering doing this, really. Naw, this is all just...terribly hypothetical. I mean, my little Tort Lop is just a pet. Retired breeder. Juuuuust a pet.

Though.........................I may be keeping my eyes out for Chinchilla Lop does from now on. Hey, everybody needs a hobby! ;)
 
Not that difficult. Just get 2 torts or 2 chins of one gender and 1 of the other color that's a different gender. Breed them and then breed the half siblings together. Tah dah some torts, some chins, some chestnuts, and tossed in there a few sallander. Get rid of the chestnuts because they will take longer to make anything useful and set up a half sibling and offspring to parent breeding plan to make more sallanders. You'd have a breeding program in 3-4 generations. It's just not done because the color isn't recognized by any breed and no one has attempted to get it recognized. They are more considered oopsies than a real color in the US. I've got the otter version in one of my netherlands.
 
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