Ever heard of Ed gene?

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RustyPocket

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Hello everybunny.

I was randomly visiting web pages and blogs about rabbit genetics in order to gather information on A_ B_ C_ D_ ee colours, and was pretty surprised to stumbble over this certain web page: http://hollyshollands.weebly.com/genetics-to-rabbit-coat-color.html that lists not 4 but 5 genes on E locus. Apperantly, there is a (rare) Ed gene that makes Agouties look Self? Anyone ever heard of such a thing?
 
I've heard of it but it is still just a theory as to why some steel can look like self black.

It's like the medium chinchilla gene - cch2 - which I believe exists but not enough people are working with it to prove it out :)

There is a dominant black found in dogs (on the K- locus) and in mice (don't recall specifics) so it's quite possible rabbits could crop up with it as well
 
The Ed gene ?! .....I swear some of those rabbits talk.

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I think I may have encountered that gene myself. I wonder if it's part of the reason steel is considered so mysterious?

My SF never behaved like typical steel carriers, or even super steels are supposed to, always throwing more dark and false black kits than they ever should have when crossed to agouti mutts. ( SF probably shouldn't have steel, but I've been paying attention, SF from all over the place have been shown to have it)

Anyway, I'd be lucky to get three visual steels from a litter of 12. The rest would all be black.

If my rabbit's were Aa __ __ __ EE and aa __ __ __ EdEs the probability would have been about right.

A lot of people explain the high incidence of blacks with the pairing of steel (Es) and non-extension (e), but so far, no non-extension has been found in my SF stock or the mutts I crossed them to.

I've also gotten "selfs" from an agouti buck who didn't carry the gene to produce them (a). He fathered large litters prior to true genetic self does and never once producing a self kit. Crossed to a NZB...somehow, I got self kits. That rabbit never threw agoutis, she was either a super steel...or...Ed Es? Perhaps he had a copy of non extension that was never passed to any of his numerous offspring (Currently, a large portion of my herd), but that still doesn't fully explain the higher incidence of "self" kits in the SF cross litters.

Another breeder who was working with the same rabbit lines had assumed self was dominant and agouti was the recessive color based on how difficult it was to get her SF crosses to produce visual steel or agouti kits!

If it is what I've been trying to work past, I wouldn't think it would be all that rare in the breeds that have it.

If I was actively looking for the gene, I'd start with NZB, SF, and Americans.
 

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