Dont kill the deer!

[Frecs]

:yeahthat: Yes!! I will gladly buy ammo for people if they'll bring me some venison! Hell I'll spring for the license. Sadly I'd do it myself but I'm not a good enough shot.

I'd do it myself if I thought there was anyway I could a) get into and out of the deer stand and b) carry a dead deer out of the woods.

 

[LilacGal]

My husband pointed out that I can't be quiet either..

 

[Frecs]

My husband pointed out that I can't be quiet either..

My mother has that affliction...must to her chagrin I am quite the opposite...I can be very quiet...for hours...she hates that!!

 

[LilacGal]

My dad is quiet, my mom and I not so much. But I can be quiet if I'm reading so maybe when I was hunting as well. Still a poor shot though... And since I can't guarantee a clean kill I'll leave it to those who can.

 

[MamaSheepdog]

I'm actually going to trade some rabbit for elk soon!

 

[Zass]

I'm actually going to trade some rabbit for elk soon!

AHHH someone in my area is selling elk by the 1/2 or 1/4
for only 3.50/lb HANGING WEIGHT, that's less than rabbit!

I want it SO BAD

 

[LilacGal]

Nice!

 

[akane]

Venison roast covered in bacon cooking in the crockpot right now

 

[Frecs]

Venison roast covered in bacon cooking in the crockpot right now

I'm on my way...don't eat without me...

 

[AmysMacdog]

akane- Oh that roast looks so gooooood! I can almost smell it!!!
MSD- You lucky duck you! I'm jealous!
LilacGal and Frecs - you crack me up! :lol:
I wish I knew someone who hunted though, I'd be happy to pay for their gas, ammo and we could process it ourselves! That would be so cool!

 

[CochinBrahmaLover]

I've never personally seen a whitetail or blacktail deer. Ever. Not in my life.

Now, that said, moose are so common I don't *get* when people are like 'oh I could never kill one, they're so magnificent and rare and...', dang, I see them just about on a daily basis! We have a mom who would always have 2-3 babies and bring them to our house because we had willows growing there. One day, when the babes were older, the mom and 3 200lb babies terrorized my sister who had to walk up our driveway from the bus... :lol: my dad had to rescue her. Not THAT funny I guess, but it was pretty funny because you never hear about other people being bullied by Moose...

My dads cousin posted a pic on facebook, about how he got a nice looking deer and such..

Gosh darn them things are TINY. I even looked up some monsters... They're the size of the babies who terrorized my sister! Ok, maybe they're larger then 200lbs, but still.... They just seem SO small! LOL.

Of course, as I say this I'm wishing I had some version... Lol... I love deer meat... But moose trumps it... Moose trumps EVERYTHING. Lol

 

[coffeenutdesigns]

I'm still trying to find a place for my son to hunt. He finally got his hunter safety certification, he worked and saved up his own money for a deer rifle, and we got him his hunting license, now we just have to find somewhere to hunt. His other grandparents (not my parents) have a place where they have a lot of deer come up, but they won't let their only 2 grandson's hunt them because they like to watch them. Luckily my boss has a place a couple of hours away we can go if we ever slow down at work.

I guess whoever invented the cows forgot to put the deer on birth control because they haven't quit making babies yet.

 

[michaels4gardens]

Most of my friends hunt, not because they save money on food, but, because they like it, it is an old tradition, and they love vennison, I get at least one deer every year from those who are too busy to take care of those they kill. We have at least a doz laying on the road every morning in the 20 min drive to where I was working, this time of year,[near Zion Nat Park] but-- the deer on the road belong to the king, and we are not suposed to take them, they just rot, until the county truck takes them to a special dump. I try to drive the mini-van as it is a lot cheeper on gas then my old ford truck, but-- the mini-van is made of plastic, so-- it is a long slow trip while driving around the deer in the road, [both alive and dead] because if I hit one it will ruin the van, and probly roll up into my lap.
I think we should be allowed to take the dead deer if we wish, -- but-- i hear --they are afriad we will hit them on purpose if they let us have them.
I am glad we have so many deer here as it looks like we may need them,
[the following is a pollitical rant so you can ignore it if you wish]

I see the US threatening, russia, China, Iran, Syria, Pakastan, Saudi, s, some of the other former russian countries,[like Ukrane] insulting and then threatening India, and I wonder just what our bosses have in mind for the US, but-- it is surely not peace.

The American people are so gullible [and people in general] that our Gov. can demo a couple of buildings and tell them that Bin laddon did it and we will go to war, and attack a country that we know had nothing to do with it.

I see very little hope for a peaceful end to this madness.

If Americans knew that they were just cattle for the Globalists, a lot would be unhappy, but-- a lot would still be content if they had their fancy car, beer, and lust games. I think a lot of people love their servitude.

I think we are in for a bumpy ride very soon, and those who love the "system" will not be prepared for anything bad to happen, I have talked to people who believe that the News would tell them if we had problems, then the Gov. would make provisions to "take care of all of us" if something bad was going to happen.

I just ask my self , "if I were in charge",-what I would do if there was going to be a big disaster, if there was nothing we could do to fix it, --I would not tell everyone, as the panic would just add body bags to the situation. I would just let the news trickle out through other outlets, so those who were watching the situation, and wanted to believe, could have a chance to get ready to survive. but-- in the cities,-- there is nothing anyone can do to save them, they are just like people in a theater, when someone yells fire.

and no agency could "take care of them" in a disaster, it is hopeless.

so-- that is why I try to take care of myself, and not rely on Gov. to come and save me. --as much as I dislike our"leader" and his lies, I wonder if I would do things differently, -- or-- not- the question that begs to be answered-- is-- what does he and his puppeteers know that I do not??

Michael

 

[skysthelimit]

:yeahthat: Yes!! I will gladly buy ammo for people if they'll bring me some venison! Hell I'll spring for the license. Sadly I'd do it myself but I'm not a good enough shot.

b) carry a dead deer out of the woods.

Yes, my first problem is my aversion to guns, and the second is how to get that sucker home and where to butcher it.

I wonder if I could master a bow an arrow? I still don't have the time for that.

I saw this ad for never without a knife, and they had this deer gutter, you could do in the woods. And then use a saws all.

 

[PSFAngoras]

Besides the rabbits, deer is our meat. We used to draw archery every year, but Colorado gets enough out of state tags that bring them in 3x more money than residents that now they only allow residents to draw archery deer tags every other year. Going to have to start putting in for rifle tags, but it's not as fun.

I like archery since I feel it is much more fair to the deer, and I use a traditional bow at that, meaning that I have to stalk within 20-40 yards of my animal. Oh buddy, if you want an adrenaline rush, just stalk a deer in the mountains with a bow in your hand trying to get within range. It's better than the adrenaline high you get from a well placed shot! As far as dragging the deer to camp, try to shoot uphill!

 

[DogCatMom]

Besides the rabbits, deer is our meat. We used to draw archery every year, but Colorado gets enough out of state tags that bring them in 3x more money than residents that now they only allow residents to draw archery deer tags every other year. Going to have to start putting in for rifle tags, but it's not as fun.

I like archery since I feel it is much more fair to the deer, and I use a traditional bow at that, meaning that I have to stalk within 20-40 yards of my animal. Oh buddy, if you want an adrenaline rush, just stalk a deer in the mountains with a bow in your hand trying to get within range. It's better than the adrenaline high you get from a well placed shot! As far as dragging the deer to camp, try to shoot uphill!

I may be asking for more than I *really* want to know, but...what do people do with --the innards? --the pelt? --the head (if you're more into using all of the animal and not just trophy stuff)? --esp. the antlers?

The horns of (some?) sheep can be sliced and made into buttons after the sheep is "harvested"; I know b/c the farmer from whom I've purchased a butchered lamb two or three times sells buttons made from her breed's horns. One year she was very stressed b/c the horns didn't come back from the butcher (potential sales for her--lost!). A few months later, Mr. Butcher called Ms. Sheep Farmer and said he had found the horns in a box he'd *very carefully* put aside just for her! Evidently, an assistant moved it out of the way so it wouldn't get messy. :lol:

So...what about deer? Buttons? Dehaired buckskin, or fur-on pelts? Innards for people? for dogs? for cats? etc.

Thank you. I wish I'd thought to talk to Uncle R. about these things when he was still here, but I was more focused on the venison chili that my aunt was well known for making.

 

[Zass]

Dogcatmom,
I will be cleaning the skull for display (since it's out first deer and I don't have a deer skull in my collection) When people give me unwanted antlers I always use them for cupboard handles, coat racks etc.
I took the pelt for a hair-on pelt, probably drape her over my favorite chair, although whitetail pelts tend to shed easily. I've made hair-off deer pelts into rawhide for drumheads. The leather is thinner and easier to work by hand than cow hide, and one of these years I'm going to make bark tanned leather and brain tanned buckskin leather. The innards mostly made dog food, guts made compost. The rest of the bones were returned to the woods for scavengers. It's a terrible shame that because of CWD I can't make bone sock from them.

Did I miss anything ?

 

[michaels4gardens]

I had not heard about CWD, I looked it up, -- what a drag
I always pressure cook and make soup stock from the bones.
one more thing to worry about I guess.
-CDC say's it [so far] has not spread to humans.
but-- humans should wear gloves when handeling game animals in affected areas.

 

[PSFAngoras]

Besides the rabbits, deer is our meat. We used to draw archery every year, but Colorado gets enough out of state tags that bring them in 3x more money than residents that now they only allow residents to draw archery deer tags every other year. Going to have to start putting in for rifle tags, but it's not as fun.

I like archery since I feel it is much more fair to the deer, and I use a traditional bow at that, meaning that I have to stalk within 20-40 yards of my animal. Oh buddy, if you want an adrenaline rush, just stalk a deer in the mountains with a bow in your hand trying to get within range. It's better than the adrenaline high you get from a well placed shot! As far as dragging the deer to camp, try to shoot uphill!

I may be asking for more than I *really* want to know, but...what do people do with --the innards? --the pelt? --the head (if you're more into using all of the animal and not just trophy stuff)? --esp. the antlers?

The horns of (some?) sheep can be sliced and made into buttons after the sheep is "harvested"; I know b/c the farmer from whom I've purchased a butchered lamb two or three times sells buttons made from her breed's horns. One year she was very stressed b/c the horns didn't come back from the butcher (potential sales for her--lost!). A few months later, Mr. Butcher called Ms. Sheep Farmer and said he had found the horns in a box he'd *very carefully* put aside just for her! Evidently, an assistant moved it out of the way so it wouldn't get messy. :lol:

So...what about deer? Buttons? Dehaired buckskin, or fur-on pelts? Innards for people? for dogs? for cats? etc.

Thank you. I wish I'd thought to talk to Uncle R. about these things when he was still here, but I was more focused on the venison chili that my aunt was well known for making.

We leave the innards at the kill site (but out of site of the road, so other people don't have to look at a gut pile) so the local scavengers clean it up for us. Ravens, coyotes, and bears all love finding a nice big gut pile. We don't use those things since we hunt in an area where cwd is a possibility. I know it is spread through the spinal fluid, brain, and marrow, but Better safe than sorry.

I'm learning to tan larger hides, so the hides will no longer be disposed of either. I have one in my freezer to practice on, but it's a lot more intimidating than the rabbit pelts I'm used to tanning! Antlers are kept and made into a Russian mount (clean skull cap attached to a plaque) or I use them if the person who shot the deer doesn't wan them. Either decoration or for buttons and pendants and things. The remaining stuff we can't use (carcass, hides until I learn to work with larger hides) all get loaded up in the back of the pickup and dumped out in the backwoods where the scavengers can finish it all off.

__________ Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:37 am __________

I had not heard about CWD, I looked it up, -- what a drag
I always pressure cook and make soup stock from the bones.
one more thing to worry about I guess.
-CDC say's it [so far] has not spread to humans.
but-- humans should wear gloves when handeling game animals in affected areas.

Cwd (chronic wasting disease, basically mad cow for wild animals for those of you who don't want to go through the trouble of looking it up) is a big bummer, but usually the animals that have it look very haggard and disoriented. We strive for older, healthy looking animals to try to keep us safe and to help give the younger animals a chance to spread their genetics.

 

[MaggieJ]

A bit of information about CWD, Chronic Wasting Disease. It seems more of a problem in the west than the east, judging from the distribution map, but of course these things are subject to change and people eating venison should be aware of any possible risk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/FW ... 68748.html