confused......impossible, i think

[DBA]

Can someone please explain the unexplainable?
My wife bred her pet frankenbunny (Holland lop cross) to one of our mini lop bucks. The buck fell off three times, and shortly thereafter, I saw three large "goo puddles" in her cage, I figure she somehow expelled his deposits.
Ok, we still kept track of her incase she did take. Well 30 days would have been February 9, 31 days would have been February 10. No babies, she didn't even act pregnant, so we just assumed she didn't take.
Since then, she has not been anywhere near a buck, never.
Here it is February 18, and this past several days I have noticed she looks fat. Past thee days she has been hay stashing, and today started pulling fur and lining a nest.
How is it possible she could be pregnant for 40-42 days?

 

[Dood]

The doe might have pyometra which was the "goo" or adenocarcinoma and would explain bloating and odd maternal behaviours.

I guess you'll just have to see if she kindles :shrug: then I'd suspect a later breeding but not a 40+ day gestation :mrgreen:

 

[Marinea]

Likely a false pregnancy, but please keep us updated.

 

[DBA]

Dood, I had no idea what you said, but I did Google it, the two terms, and did some reading. From what I just read, that should only be a possibility if the rabbit is 3 years old or older. This bunny is only 6 1/2 months old.
She is right now, feverishly packing hay into a corner of her cage, building a burrow in it and lining it with fur.
I just tried lifting her newly made nest and putting a cardboard box in her cage and put her nesting material in the box. She didn't like that at all, she dug it out, pulled the box out of the way and started rebuilding the nest.

If it matters, she hasn't lost her appetite, eats and drinks plenty. She isn't lethargic at all, is plenty active.

I suppose I may have been a week off on my kindle calculation, but I don't think so....but 40 days just doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Zass]

From what I just read, that should only be a possibility if the rabbit is 3 years old or older.

Where did you see that? Please link a source. I was under the impression that pyometra could occur at any age.

 

[DBA]

I'm sorry, it was the adenocarcinoma that mentioned the 3 years, but the link of that info mentioned pyometra

http://en.wikivet.net/Uterine_Adenocarcinoma_-_Rabbit

 

[Zass]

I'm sorry, it was the adenocarcinoma that mentioned the 3 years, but the link of that info mentioned pyometra

http://en.wikivet.net/Uterine_Adenocarcinoma_-_Rabbit

I wonder if they like to claim the high uterine cancer rates on rabbits 3-4 years old because they know most breeders already have them pulled out of production around that time frame? It seems convenient...

 

[Sagebrush]

I am of the opinion that pyometra and adenocarcinoma can occur at any time during the life of the doe. Though I also have the opinion that those who mature faster might have a higher instance. Again this is just my opinion, no actual facts have been stated.

 

[Miss M]

I did have a doe kindle on day 40. It's not something you want to happen, for sure. There was a stuck kit, and all the litter died but two. Of those two, one furred out but never grew, and finally faded and died at 13 days. Only one made it to butchering age.

Someone else on here had a live litter born on day 41. Both of us had the breeding date recorded, so no mistakes there.

Hopefully, for you, it's just a miscalculation. :clover:

 

[DBA]

Well, I just woke up and went and checked on her. She had 7 kits since I went to sleep.
One kit was away from thee nest, cold and dead. I tried warming it, but, no, its is dead, the other six are warm and active, wiggling around.

 

[Zass]

:mbounce: :congratulations:

 

[Miss M]

YAY!!! :cheer1: :cheer2: :cheer1:

I'm sorry for the one loss, but glad for all the live ones!

 

[Dood]

I am glad it was a normal pregnancy and I am amazed they are OK

It would be interesting to see if she always has a long gestation or if this was a one time thing and "maybe" the dates were wrong :x

Generally the consensus is to leave a nest-box in until day 37 but perhaps it should be longer :shrug:

 

[katiebear]

:congratulations: Always so happy when it's human error...That month of waiting sure seems longer.... :lol:

 

[Marinea]

Wowza- congrats!

I was about to pull a nestbox from a lionhead doe that I had mis-sexed and kept with bucks a while, but I think I shall leave it a few more days to be sure.

 

[WhWRabbitry]

I was really curious to see what had transpired... WOW! :clap2: Congratulations!!

Pictures are in order you know!

 

[JenerationX]

I was really curious to see what had transpired... WOW! :clap2: Congratulations!!

Pictures are in order you know!

Yeah that!!! Congrats!

 

[DBA]

Sorry, I can't seem to post pics here. I use my phone to access the web, I can't resize pics small enough to upload. I uploaded one pic one time, but it was emailed to my wife, re emailed to me and I downloaded it to my phone.

-- Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:38 am --

Ok, why would the doe do this? Twice now she has seperated the kits. Her initial nest will have 4 kits in it, then about 8 inches away there will be two more kits. It doesn't look like two just crawled away because both times the two were in a perfect little hair lined nest and covered with hair and hay.
So, why would she want the litter to be split into two nests?
Each time I moved the two kits back to the original nest with the others. <br /><br /> -- Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:24 am -- <br /><br /> Testing pic upload....

 

[Susie570]

Oh my gosh... they are so tiny!

As for why she would move them.... beats me! I would say let her separate them, but the two kits she's moving would surely benefit from the warmth of their siblings. It's she feeding them? Those two look kind of thin to my eye.

 

[DBA]

I haven't seen her feeding yet. They are all that size, so that's either good or really bad. <br /><br /> -- Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:40 am -- <br /><br /> Ok, I just went and checked on them. As I uncovered the nest, mama went to where the small nest was and started digging in the hay, like she was looking for the two kits. So, one at a time I pulled kits from the nest and put them right under her, she stayed still as each one burrowed completely under her, so I assume they are feeding.