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skysthelimit":3h9hz1gi said:
One line of my chins are very sooty. For the longest time, the chins and the choco agouti looked the same. The litter is 8 weeks now, and I haven't taken them out in about two weeks, so I'm anxious to see what that coat looks like. I suspect that half of the line carries Seal. Eventually the sooty ones are usually lighter than the other chins. They molt into a completely showable color, then as they get older, get sooty again. That makes their pelts unusable for me, and if the trend continues, I'm going to cull that line.

Jack is odd, Now we're contemplating if he's even Flem x Chin or Chin x Something else. I guess I don't care what he is really but it'd be nice to know.
 
most people don't confuse Rottweilers, Dobermans, Coon Hounds, Dachshunds and Minature Pinchers even though they all come in Black and Tan.

Our bernese mountain dog was discriminated against as a rott x all the time despite the streak of white on his chest and medium length coat. Some guy threatened to shoot him for coming near his kids while out at a lake. Even when showing him 4-h a judge and breeder marked him as a rott x. Just for the black and tan pattern. He wasn't docked either. Someone called my dark brindle akita a black lab. People are stupid about such things. I've seen crosses called some crazy things and 3/4ths of the purebreds are assumed to be whatever breed the person is more familiar with.

The back stripe and side stripe pattern is very dominant. It is the standard checkered pattern and all my checkered crosses even when I was a couple generations and other breeds from the checkereds the pattern still showed up. That doesn't mean the rabbit is checkered cross though. That dominant spotting pattern shows up easily on any broken line in any breed if you don't breed away from it on purpose. Size is a slightly better indicator but the offspring will tend to be closer to the doe's size than the buck's size so a somewhat smaller or somewhat larger rabbit may have been used than the resulting offspring shows. Shape is the best indicator if there is something more unique instead of one of the myriad of commercial breed crosses that are all very similar.
 
akane":3cfqa71i said:
most people don't confuse Rottweilers, Dobermans, Coon Hounds, Dachshunds and Minature Pinchers even though they all come in Black and Tan.

Our bernese mountain dog was discriminated against as a rott x all the time despite the streak of white on his chest and medium length coat. Some guy threatened to shoot him for coming near his kids while out at a lake.

I HATE people like that. When I lived on the Air Force Base in Panama City Florida. I had Indoor / Outdoor cats and they apparently used to go potty in a neighbors garden off the side of his porch. He came over and yelled at me one day while my parents were at work (I was about fourth maybe fifth grade). He told me that he was deathly allergic to cats and next time he sees any cat in his garden, he was shooting and killing them.

1) We live on an Air Force base so, no you will not shoot them. You cannot do that. There are rules.

2) You don't know that it is my cats doing it. Again, This is an Air Force Base. People leave their pets when they get orders if they can't take them with them. Birds, Cats, Dogs, whatever.

3) Go Away and stop yelling at a little kid.

I never said any of those things to him, but my mother made certain he was not yelling at me or my brothers again. Nor would he ever threaten our feline companions. I'm sorry he's allergic but it's not like our cats were the only ones outdoors.

Someone called my dark brindle akita a black lab. People are stupid about such things. I've seen crosses called some crazy things and 3/4ths of the purebreds are assumed to be whatever breed the person is more familiar with.

Yeah, I hate when people call Boris and Zelda mixed Dobes or say "ONE of them is mixed because they don't look the same. I laugh and go "uhm no"

1) Boris was imported from Russia. He's EURO working lines. He has the face of a great dane and a really bad flop crop.
2) Zelda is Euro/American Lines from a greeder in Detroit who didn't give two shits about his dogs and from what I've read online a guy who bought most of the greeder guy's bitch dogs said there was a foot print on the stomach of one of the pregnant ladydobers from where he kicked her so who knows what he did breeding wise.

People also don't believe me when I say that our dachshund mix's father was a pit bull, but you can see it in her face/head/ears and chest.

I can't wait till I get a Belgian Sheepdog (of Groenendael type) to hear "Wow is that a german shepherd?" or "That's a collie mix" or other stupid things.

Shape is the best indicator if there is something more unique instead of one of the myriad of commercial breed crosses that are all very similar.

Shape is really hard for me to distinguish in Rabbits x:
 
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