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waymire

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Hello all!

Hoping for some advice. We started breeding rabbits again this year after a move from Oklahoma to Louisiana. We breed for meat, personal use, and have always been successful in the past. We are in the southwest portion of the state, so weather is hot and humid. We started with a couple of premade freestanding outdoor hutch set ups (bought with breeding stock from two folks who were getting out of rabbits)in the spring, bought a few more breeders, and did quite well with babies... then summer hit and it was a hot one. The high humidity really seemed to hurt them. We moved the rabbits indoors into our barn, installed fans, but kept having failures (babies dying, small litters, no babies at all, etc). The last two months we had no litters at all. Discovered the colony idea and decided to give it a try, we set up an indoor colony (well semi-indoor, covered roof with open walls) in two large horse stalls we combined. The total area is about 20x36, maybe a bit larger. Dirt floor, 2ft plywood at bottom, wire to the ceiling, paver blocks on the floor around the walls. Bunnies loved it, and have all shown fantastic growth, great condition, etc. seem very happy. We had an orphan doe that my dd was keeping as a pet who only grew to about half the size she should have... in the three months they have been in the colony she has grown to be the same size as the others. We have around a dozen does, we chose our best breeding buck, and there are two jr bucks as well. They do not seem crowded at all, especially considering the hutches they lived their whole lives in before. They are all under a year and a half old, with most under a year. Big problem is although we see lots of breeding, we have not had a single litter. I changed their diet after the first month, thought maybe they were not getting enough protein (they were on grass hay with alfalfa cubes and a small amount of grain to supplement) they are now on the best breeder pellet I can buy (petrus 700B) with cubes and a small amount of grass hay, clean up every bit, and still nothing. They are all in good condition but not fat. Added mineral blocks as well. Thought maybe heat sterilization might be the problem with the senior buck, he does not allow the juniors to breed as far as we can tell, no fighting he just keeps them from breeding, but temps have been lower for several months now... could it be permanent? They have next boxes scattered about, and we have had two very nice nests built... but no babies. I added two "houses" the top and bottom halves of a large doghouse hoping they would like it and breed... nope. We had not allowed any natural dens for fear of them digging out, but they recently started a huge one right in the middle and I have allowed that one to stay in hopes it would encourage breeding. I see no sign of aggression amongst the rabbits, they all seem to get along nicely. Any ideas? They do have a security light nearby, so they have a small amount of light 24/7, could that be a problem? We have been feeding with no "payback" for over six months now, and the husband is suggesting scrapping the whole bunch and starting over....

Also, regarding the in ground den, how far will they dig? Hubby is very concerned they will mine halfway across the yard and escape. It is about 10' from the closest wall. It appears to be quite deep and very large (about 20" across).
 
Welcome! We are practically neighbors, I live in SE Texas, very close to the LA border. I cannot speak to the colony setup, but I can tell you that I have had zero litters since July and almost every other breeder I know that does not raise in an indoor, climate controlled environment has had problems with not getting litters. I believe it to be heat sterility related. I am just now getting positive palpations and we have 6 does now bred and due in the month of December. How long have they been in the colony? It could be that there are kits in the tunnel but you have not see them because they don't usually come out until 3weeks old or so....
 
Thanks! They have been in the colony about three months. The tunnel is new this week, they played around with it for a day or two, probably figuring I was going to fill it in like the rest, then went to town... lol. Dug like mad, for two days (I'm not kidding, came out one morning and it was five times the size it was the day before, and there was a pile of dirt a foot high and about four feet wide where they had thrown it), and it's stayed the same, at least as far as I can see, which isn't far, for the last three. We are planning to let them do their thing (provided they DO it lol) and just snag the little ones who come to eat with mom when I feed (they all come running, will practically trample you) and toss them back into the hutches to feed out. That has been a big surprise about the colony other than the immense growth, while I had a few that would greet you at the door of the hutch (babies I raised)all the others hated my guts. We have very large hutches and I had to get a step stood to corner them at the back, now they swarm you and you can reach down and pet anyone you want. Doesn't make any sense, but we used to have a huge problem with ear mites too... and not a single icky ear since they have been in the colony. The smell is nonexistent, I have one urine spot where they all go and I haven't touched the floor, I used to have at least a half hour of shoveling every week. It's really been great.

Good to know I'm not the only one with no babies. It was a pretty nasty summer. We lost almost an entire pen of fryers in one day, we have automatic waterers and the largest/meanest parked themselves on the nozzles and killed the rest of the pen. I had a guy stop by the house yesterday afternoon looking for rabbits who said his have done the same thing,completely stopped breeding. He was going to get a trio from me and see if it was just his breeders... but of course I didn't have any since no babies here for months. Ok, well hopefully I have a bunch of prego's out there, we will wait it out and see what happens by the end of the year.
 
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