Blue or Sable?

[Bad Habit]

Okay, so I know that there's 2 broken blacks, a broken tort, a broken sable point, a solid tort and a vienna tort(very smutty, who cares, it's vienna), but I am unsure as to the other vienna orphan.

Mom was a BEW, with little to go on - one parent was a black VC, and if you go back a little ways, blue and sable show up. This was her only successful litter - the sibling is the vienna tort.

Dad was a black tort known to carry dilute and sable.

Initially I thought it was a black, but obviously it is not.

This photo was taken with a flash, so may not be the most useful for figuring out colour.

 

[Dood]

With this photo I'd say blue

I don't currenty see any indication of the shaded gene but blue sables with normal fur go through a "shimmery" phase, and develop darker points and a lighter saddle with age - I'm not sure if the fuzzier Lionhead fur will effect this

 

[Bad Habit]

Well, siamese sable was what I was thinking, which starts out looking almost black, then passes through an almost blue phase before ending up with the dark coat/light undercoat of their jr coat, then molting to the typical colour people think of when they think siamese sable... which in and of itself is different from a short coat, because the mane is always lighter than the actual colour.

 

[Dood]

My experience with Siamese (black based) sables has never been a bluish phase but a frosted / shimmery dark chocolate phase :shrug: and why I thought that possibly the kit is a blue sable (AKA smoke pearl)

 

[Bad Habit]

Definitely not smoke pearl light, that's a silvery dove grey. My experience with siamese sable has always been a dark charcoal-grey. I get siamese sable fairly frequently in my lions, though admittedly have only had one smoke pearl.