Another color question

Jasharia · Jan 7, 2011

I have a chocolate English angora buck he is out of a chocolate and a lilac point. Now for my first doe I might get a opal I am not sure what she is out of but I know there is a rew in there. Is it posible that I can get a pointed white? I know with chocolate both have to carry the color right? So could I get a black or blue pointed white? I am still trying to get a chocolate pointed white doe but have not found any yet.

Jack · Jan 7, 2011

NO, I'm not good with modified agouti colors (points and chins)

BUT this I do know, REW is a masking color, and points are C (colored) C-chin-light but then you have other color modifiers to get opals etc.
Anywho, a REW is cc, so if it carries, a C-chin c(REW), and you breed to another carrier, you will get some REW not points, the points depend on the C-color being a C-chin light

Devon's Mom Lauren · Jan 8, 2011

The opal would have to carry for pointed white for pointeds to show up in the first generation. Opal is a dilute agouti so anything could be hiding there.

Jack · Jan 8, 2011

Ok, use google to check me
but here is my try

opal is A_B_dd_C, so a dilute black agouti (dilute agouti basically)
the point would have to be carried in the C c(chn L)

So if the rabbit is from a point, maybe, otherwise most likely no.

http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/angorarabb ... codes.html
http://www.debmark.com/rabbits/genetics.htm
http://www.mysticalmistminiatures.com/genetics.html

lastly written by Eric Stewart, ARBA director
http://www.arba.net/district/9/lop_color_genetics.htm

That should answer all your questions

Devon's Mom Lauren · Jan 9, 2011

The Eric Stewart link is the one.. he knows his stuff inside and out

grinlow farm · Jan 9, 2011

when you talk about lilac point do you mean a Lilac pearl or a lilac pointed white?. I have pointed whites and I do not breed agouti patterns to the pointeds. The agouti will show up in the points which is a DQ on the show table.

Jasharia · Jan 9, 2011

See that is what I need to know He is chocolate and his mom is a pointed white and his dad is chocolate. So I sould not even get this doe right? I don't want to mess up the color.

grinlow farm · Jan 9, 2011

He can throw pointed whites. I would breed him to a solid doe. If you are in love with the opal just realize some of the offspring could be pointed agouti. There could be alot of other colors. When I pair my agouti buck and pointed doe in Evans Software I get 12% unrecognized color which is prob. pointed agouti, that means each bunny has 12% chance of being unrecognized color. Your pointed is a generation removed so that number is prob decreased. I love my english agouti angora rabbits but I keep them away from my pointed line.