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WildWolf

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I love the way the angoras look, and I'd love to be able to spin their wool. But don't they require a lot of maintenance? I keep hearing different suggestions as to how often to groom them. I have lots of questions about them.. :roll:
~How often do you groom them?
~How do you groom them? What do you use to groom?
~How do you deal with the heat in the summer? I live in NC, it can get to 100 degrees some summer days...
~Are there breeding difficulties because of the long hair?
~Does anyone have any experience with colonies? or outdoors? I have an outdoor colony... :)
~Will other rabbits mess up their wool? If they are outside, or if they dig, does it mess up their wool?
~How much wool do you get? How often do you get wool?
~What are the different breeds? What colors are there?

I know its a lot of questions... :oops:
 
Are you asking about Jersey Woolies or Angora rabbits? I wouldn't keep any angora in a colony because of the wool maintenance.
You will want to keep them in a climate controlled setting in the summer time or at the very least give them frozen bottles of water to lay against. This will help keep them cool. I use a combination of a pin brush, slicker brush, and a small comb as well as a groomers blow dryer.

English Angora, french Angora, American fuzzy lop, German Angora, Lion head, and Satin Angora. It will depend on your personal feelings on each breed and what you plan to use them for. :) I hope this helps. And each breed will have different grooming requirements.
 
I love the way the angoras look, and I'd love to be able to spin their wool. But don't they require a lot of maintenance? I keep hearing different suggestions as to how often to groom them. I have lots of questions about them.. :roll:

I'm assuming you're asking about Angoras. I've just started with them this summer, but I'll do my best.

~How often do you groom them?
My Satin Angoras I groom once a week. My English are twice a week, and I try to check their furnishings (face and ears) daily or so.

~How do you groom them? What do you use to groom?
I use a blow dryer. It's a 4hp model. I start at the back and blow from the skin out. It only takes a few minutes and once they get used to the noise, it's no big deal. I can get all the bunnies done quickly and it maintains the coat for show. If they have a mat I try to blow it out over a couple sessions, and if it doesn't, I remove it with a wire comb. I also lightly slicker the ends of the coat just to get off any loose hair.

~How do you deal with the heat in the summer? I live in NC, it can get to 100 degrees some summer days...
I don't know. I waited to get back into rabbits until I was in a temperate climate. I know many people use air conditioning. No help on that one, we think it's hot if it hits 75 here lol.

~Are there breeding difficulties because of the long hair?
Not really, you can keep them trimmed in areas if you'd like.

~Does anyone have any experience with colonies? or outdoors? I have an outdoor colony... :)
They do ok on maintained grass. I have an English Angora in a tractor, and she doesn't get matted any more than the others. BUT if they get wet or into sticks you'll have a problem. I am planning on more tractors next year. Show bunnies though need to be kept up, and you still MUST make sure you groom.

~Will other rabbits mess up their wool? If they are outside, or if they dig, does it mess up their wool?
AGain, depends, dry soil is ok, and what your purpose for the wool is. I feel like I can put up with some mess for the rewards it gives the bunnies, but I am blessed with sandy soil, and only use tractors.

~How much wool do you get? How often do you get wool?
Depends on the breed as to the amount. About every 3-4 months is when you will harvest. You can shear or pluck the wool.

~What are the different breeds? What colors are there?
There are: French, Satin, English, Giant, and German angoras. French have easy care coats, come in lots of colors, and have a meaty body type. Satins have the finest wool, it resembles silk, and their colors are more saturated. Again, they're a meaty type. Their wool shimmers and shines. English are the smallest, and resemble teddy bears. Their wool is fine and soft but does matt, especially on the face. I don't find their bodies mat that badly. Giants are the largest and only come in white. German angoras are not recognized by the ARBA but produce the most wool. Their wool has more guard hairs than the satin or english, so it's slightly coarser but doesn't mat.

And there ends Angora primer 101 :) They are work, but to me, the rewards outweigh the grooming :)

I know its a lot of questions...
 
I saw the most incredible bunny at the show Saturday. A lady had the angora flipped over her lap like a child, grooming it. It looked so calm. No more buns for me, but if anyone needs a retirement home for an angora....
 
Their temperaments are amazing. They love people, are clowns, and SWEET. Every single angora I have meets you at the front of the cage, for treats. Even the new guys I just brought home last night after 12 hours in the car, met me at the doors this morning.

The grooming so far has been easier than I thought, but that's due to the blower. All my new guys are molting so I need to get out there and pluck them out in the next day or so.
 
Thanks everyone! I think its a little too much grooming for me. And I'd prefer to have my rabbits outside, and we have clay soil. But they sure do sound like fun :)
 
I raise/breed French angoras, but they are fairly similar in maintainence to Satin angoras or English angoras:

~How often do you groom them?
Once or twice a week depending on coat length,

~How do you groom them? What do you use to groom?
I use a stiff comb primarily. Many people use blowers, but since I only breed for wool production and not show, I don't feel the need to purchase a blower.

~How do you deal with the heat in the summer? I live in NC, it can get to 100 degrees some summer days...
We have had about three straight months of high 90's topping out at about 101*F. No humidity though or at least very low. I change out frozen 2-liter water bottles twice a day and have an osilating fan on them all day long.

~Are there breeding difficulties because of the long hair?
Nope. That wool is handy for nest boxes in the winter.

~Does anyone have any experience with colonies? or outdoors? I have an outdoor colony...
Nope. My French angoras are outdoors in stacked wire cages.

~Will other rabbits mess up their wool? If they are outside, or if they dig, does it mess up their wool?
Guarantee it. When I let my rabbits out to play in their fenced play area they get all sorts of leaves and dirt and pine needles stuck in their wool.

~How much wool do you get? How often do you get wool?
I get about 2 ounces of plucked (not sheared) prime wool from each rabbit every 3-4 months.

~What are the different breeds? What colors are there?
English, French, Satin, German.
If you do a quick google search you can easily find the angora colors which are a little different than other breeds. I have a list on my website if you're interested.
 
WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
I love the way the angoras look, and I'd love to be able to spin their wool. But don't they require a lot of maintenance? I keep hearing different suggestions as to how often to groom them. I have lots of questions about them.. :roll:
~How often do you groom them?

It depends on the individual rabbit as well as the age of the rabbit. Young ones in their first coat need more frequent grooming or they get matted. Some adults can go for several months between groomings and not be matted. Others need weekly grooming.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
~How do you groom them? What do you use to groom?
It depends on the purpose of the grooming. For non-shedding rabbits being generally groomed and not for a show rabbit, a wire comb is probably my most used tool. Show rabbits take different grooming methods, preferably a blower. When they are shedding, if it is a show rabbit, the fiber is combed off with the wire comb. If they are a fiber rabbit, the electric clippers can be used since that is much quicker.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
~How do you deal with the heat in the summer? I live in NC, it can get to 100 degrees some summer days...
Hawaii never gets that hot, so we don't have to deal with extreme heat. A rabbit hutch under a shady tree works for us. They do have access to cooling breezes.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
~Are there breeding difficulties because of the long hair?
Before breeding, we usually groom both rabbits and trim around the important parts so the long wool won't interfere. The buck seems more energetic if he's just had his coat harvested, too. They can be bred without any grooming, but it seems easier for them if there has been some grooming and trimming.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
~Does anyone have any experience with colonies? or outdoors? I have an outdoor colony... :)
~Will other rabbits mess up their wool? If they are outside, or if they dig, does it mess up their wool?

We don't have colonies, but there are multiple rabbits in a large cage. Sometimes if the protein content of their food isn't high enough and they will nibble on each other's wool. That's bad for the rabbits as well as wool production. Adding some soybean meal to their diet will usually stop them from chewing on each other's wool.

Sometimes one rabbit will take a dislike to another rabbit and be a bully, then we usually separate those two. Sometimes a rabbit won't thrive in a multiple rabbit situation since it won't be aggressive enough to get it's proper share of the food. The bunnies sharing a cage are watched closer and weighed each week to make sure they are maintaining proper weight.

Any time there is small bits of vegetable matter available, it will get tangled up in the wool. If you are keeping them long wooled for a show coat or just want longer lengths to spin, it seems they will tangle anything into their wool that they can. For those, keeping them up on wire is a good idea. If you harvest their coats frequently, then it wouldn't be so much of a problem.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
~How much wool do you get? How often do you get wool?

It depends on the rabbit and I really need to keep better records on wool production. Usually a good wool harvest will be four ounces from an English angora, although I harvest the wool at least three times a year from each bunny. It can be more or less than that, though, depending on the bunny. Diet makes a difference as well as genetics.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
~What are the different breeds? What colors are there?
I only keep the English angora. There are quite a few bunny colors, although the bunny colors spin up to basically pastel shades of gray, peach, tan or white. Agouti, Black and Blue spin up to more or less the same shade of soft pewter gray. Lilac is a bit lighter gray with a slight tan overcast. Chocolate is a grayish tan. Tortoiseshell and fawn spin up to a tawny peach color. White spins up to a very clear and lovely white color. All of these take acid dyes really well although they say dyed angora won't be as warm and the undyed angora.

WildWolf":2kw4dtkf said:
I know its a lot of questions... :oops:
 
Thanks! I don't think I'm going to get Angoras or any other wooly rabbit... I'd rather have rabbits that don't require the grooming and can dig and roll around outside :)
 
Good choice. :) I love my Jersey woolys but couldn't imagine them rolling in the grass and leaves, or digging in the dirt. lol

There are so many breeds to choose from that I am sure you will find one that is just perfect for you.

Flemish Giants are a gentle and fun breed as well and come in a big variety of colors. :)

And Rex are another nice breed that comes in allot of fun/pretty colors as well.

Good luck on your search of the perfect breed. I am impressed that you took the time to inquire before buying an Angora and ending up with a sick bunny and a miserable self!
 
this is a paste from my earlier post:
1)I groom on my lap, first use a fine wire brush with soft bristles on the back and "high" sides, with the rabbit laying sideways across my legs
2)I ease the back legs down the side of my thigh so I can get to the "seat area" of the back--the part they actually sit on.
3) I put the back paws on my lap and front paws on my chest, then brush the "low" sides. Bun tends to "cuddle" under my chin a bit...my favorite part.
4) I firmly hold the rabbit to my chest and lean forward, while relaxing my thighs enough that the rabbit slides down and can be held firmly between my legs while I groom the tummy. (The secret is firm but not tight--rabbits want to feel secure while in a vulnerable position).
5) I stroke the bun until relaxed and sort of tranced before brushing the under-carriage. 6) This is a good time to brush the chest and under chin.
7) If they are relaxed enough (head back) the lower teeth should show and you can gently part the upper lip to check the uppers. Sometimes they break a tooth chewing on the wrong thing...
8)Time to trim nails--if you can find them in the foot-fur.
9) Set the rabbit upright in my lap and stroke a while before setting down with bum facing away, face toward my feet. This is so they don't get in the habit of running away when you set them down.

Maybe I got the set-down tip from rabbit talk, I know I picked it up on-line somewhere. It really works. Since they are going into the cage rear first, that would be the "unknown" and your arms would still represent safety. Hadn't thought of the scratching aspect....(silly girl).

I do find combing out my fluff mutts to be very relaxing, but I also enjoyed writing it out, step by step. I actually bought a rather expensive shop vac with reverse to blow buns with, but haven't tried it. Don't want the noise, really, or the stress on the rabbi (plural of rabbit).
 
I love the way the angoras look, and I'd love to be able to spin their wool. But don't they require a lot of maintenance?

Sometimes, depends on the breed, age of the rabbit, and how long you keep the coat. I breed English Angoras in NW Oklahoma where we had 8 weeks of 100+ temps daily last summer. Not showing yet, but will be next year.

I keep hearing different suggestions as to how often to groom them. I have lots of questions about them..
~How often do you groom them?

As often as needed and sometimes only the area needed ... for my EAs, I groom the facial furnishings each morning when I feed, takes just a few minutes per bun and doubles as cuddle time ... and this is when they are caged 24/7.

Once per week, I also groom behind the front elbows/along the side and above the hock on the back legs and across above the tail. As the fiber gets longer, I will groom as many as 3x per week with an overall grooming on the weekend.

Also, part of the grooming for any long haired breed is the area around the privates ... basically, I keep that clipped short at all times ... it helps keep the poop from matting on the fur, helps keep the buck from developing urine stains and smell, and in warmer weather, helps keep heat scald down for the bucks.

~How do you groom them?

I place mine on a Workmate workbench with a berber area rug draped over it. I sit in a chair and that puts me just about face to face with the bun, but allows me to stand up and reach from front to back. I do this OUTSIDE :D in the warmer months and on an unheated, enclosed back porch in the winter.

First, I place the bun on the workmate and blow the coat. Using whichever comb/brush needed to free any mats or vegetable matter.

Next, I place the bun facing me on the workmate and start with the furnishings and ears, then turn the bun and work my way from behind the ears down the shoulders, along the sides and back to the rump, and then from the tail up over the hips. From there, I will stand the rabbit up and do the chest and belly.

Last, I will blow the bun out again using the slicker brush to "whisk" the ends of the hairs to remove any loose/shed hairs.

This takes about 20 minutes.

What do you use to groom?

I use a cat slicker brush, my shop vac on "blow", a tangle remover steel toothed comb, a plastic rat-tailed (people) comb, animal nail clippers, short fiskars scissors.

~How do you deal with the heat in the summer? I live in NC, it can get to 100 degrees some summer days...

As I said above, in NW Oklahoma, we have scorching hot summers and can have wickedly cold winters, but we generally have a decent breeze blowing most of the time and very low humidity. This past summer, I simply clipped all my angoras in May, June, July and August. Since they were in short coats, I also put them in runout pens during the day where they could dig in the dirt, lay on concrete pavers and didn't bother with a coat. As their coat grows out, and debris starts to become embedded in their coat, I move them back to their cages full time.

When I shear them, if it is before they blow their coat, but still at a spinnable length, I just use the fiskars to clip starting with a part down the spine and clipping at just above skin from back to front.

If they are blowing their coat, I will pluck the prime fiber (over the back and somewhat down the side and over the rump, then shear the shorter fiber that is left.

~Are there breeding difficulties because of the long hair?

No, see above about clipping in the grooming section.

~Does anyone have any experience with colonies? or outdoors? I have an outdoor colony...

As mentioned above, mine get time in a runout pen daily in the summer, and after blowing their coat in the winter.

~Will other rabbits mess up their wool?

If the cages are close enough, you can get other rabbits chewing on any fiber that goes through the wire. One time, I had a doe build her nest and she was able to reach through the cage wire to pluck fiber from the buck (she was a satin doe, no where near that long of fiber LOL) So, in any situation, you should be mindful of neighbors and such. In the runout pen, I see the other rabbits helping to groom the angoras as their hair gets longer. I also feed a 16% pellet with a supplement of oats and BOSS for coat maintenance.

If they are outside, or if they dig, does it mess up their wool?

Only in the sense that the dirt can get down to the skin in the longer fiber and is difficult to groom out, even with a blower.

~How much wool do you get?

One doe regularly gives me 5+ oz of prime fiber 2-3x per year, depending on when her molt falls in relation to hot weather. The buck gives me 4-6 oz of prime under the same situation. I generally get another 2-3oz of secondary fiber that is long enough to spin, but is a short staple length.

How often do you get wool?

2-3x per year, could be 4x if I kept the EAs inside in the airconditioning :D

But don't they require a lot of maintenance?

Back to this, no, not necessarily, and I get back much, much more than I put into them!!! My doe is a sweetheart, my buck is a character, but both of them are extremely personable and gentle.

I realize that you already said you had changed your intention of getting angoras, but maybe this will give you a bit more overall perspective on how rewarding it can be to have angoras in your rabbitry. I look at the grooming time as quality "face time" with my angora.
 

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