What will be produced?

[Easy Ears]

Just curious. I really wanted to experiment with Dwarfs and Dutch.
As of now, I have a Dutch buck that I believe to be crossed with a BEW netherland because his body is the EXACT shape of a dwarf (A blind vet thought he was a dwarf) but his color pattern is almost a perfect show quality Dutch. Which leads me to believe that he was bred with a BEW netherland because one of his offspring had a partial blue eye, and wouldn't the Dutch pattern be more dominant that the white?

Well, with that said, I was wanting to experiment with producing Dutch Dwarfs. (Is this a known breed?)
The best way to go about it (I would like to include my buck in this...since he is so handy) would probably be to buy a BEW ND doe, and breed it to my half Dutch, half ND buck is what I'm thinking....what do you think this would produce?

Also, I've been wanting an Orange ND to breed with a acquaintances chestnut buck, to get cinnamons, chestnuts and oranges.
I also considered breeding her to my Dutch/ND buck.....because I would like to incorporate this color.....any thoughts?

Also, I've been wanting to get a broken HL doe....that will produce a lot of color....any known colors that will produce lots of color? Any suggestions? The buck that I would be breeding her with is a solid blue tort! <3 Thoughts?

 

[Dood]

The dutch gene often produces blue or partially blue eyes

There are no "dwarf Dutch" as they are a small breed to begin with at 3.5 to 5.5 pounds

Breeding an orange to a chestnut will likely just produce chestnuts unless the chestnut has a hidden non-extension gene, then you would get some orange. I believe "cinnamons" are overly light torts and you won't get this colour unless both rabbits carry self and the chestnut carries non-extension.

The only way to get "lots of colors" other than chestnut or black from a blue tort buck is if the doe AND buck carry recessives

 

[Zass]

Broken what? Broken patten can overlay any coat color.

You are going to need to carefully study rabbit colors genetic to get a good grasp of the possibilities.
Start with learning the genotypes behind the color names. Some colors are called different names with different breeds, so learning genotypes is more important when you are making mutts than with purebreds.

And, we cannot really tell you what you can get unless you have all the accurate color names in place.

 

[akane]

I've always heard of cinnamon as being chocolate agouti but I see the breed of that name and in some other breeds it looks like a tort. Dutch is recessive. Both parents must be or carry dutch. Also if we want to get really complicated there are 3 dutch genes that give various degrees of pattern. They are combined to make a properly marked dutch. BEW is not something I would cross with dutch if I was wanting to work with the pattern. You'll be getting the color you want and then suddenly you will have solid white rabbits who have an unknown pattern quality making them near useless for breeding towards the dutch pattern.

 

[Marinea]

I think you'll get a lot of chestnut non-Dutch patterned rabbits.

I would also be careful breeding a larger buck to a smaller doe. It can cause issues with kindling.

 

[Zass]

pictures would help too.. :camera3:

 

[fhjmom]

Besides playing with colors, what is your goal in breeding these combinations? What will you do with the offspring?

 

[EnglishSpot]

Does anyone have a recommendation of a book or website teaching rabbit color genetics?

 

[Easy Ears]

Besides playing with colors, what is your goal in breeding these combinations? What will you do with the offspring?

Just a hobby....but I plan to sell the offspring as pets. I just love the Dutch pattern, and the dwarf build...my buck is the cutest thing ever, so I was hoping to try and create more of him.

BEW is not something I would cross with dutch if I was wanting to work with the pattern. You'll be getting the color you want and then suddenly you will have solid white rabbits who have an unknown pattern quality making them near useless for breeding towards the dutch pattern.

Well, what do you suggest I use then akane? I was just going to take the best Dutch marked baby out of the litter and breed it back to the father and take the best out of that litter, etc.
I thought that BEW would be the best since the Dutch pattern would mostly dominate.....would a Orange ND be better?

Broken what? Broken patten can overlay any coat color.

You are going to need to carefully study rabbit colors genetic to get a good grasp of the possibilities.
Start with learning the genotypes behind the color names. Some colors are called different names with different breeds, so learning genotypes is more important when you are making mutts than with purebreds.

And, we cannot really tell you what you can get unless you have all the accurate color names in place.

Just broken HLs. Any color. So any books, or websites that teach color genetics?

Color names?

 

[Zass]

A quick google search will turn up 100's of websites.
Just browse them until you find one with a layout you like

http://www.thenaturetrail.com/rabbit-ge ... lie-solid/
http://www.ephiny.net/hlcolorguide.php
http://www.utahhollandlops.com/ourhollandcolors.htm
http://www.thenaturetrail.com/rabbit-ge ... pes-chart/
http://www.threelittleladiesrabbitry.co ... sindex.php