What do you call this color?

[PSFAngoras]

Hazel's first litter is now starting to open their eyes! Which means that I should be letting the people waiting for them know what they have the option to choose from color wise, even if they are too young to sex yet. The only problem is that there are two kits that I don't know what they are!!!

They look like torts, but they are extremely diluted. Not sure what causes this at all! One is solid, which is the one I have single pictures of, and the other is broken (all the way at the end on the right in the pictures. The eyes are colored, though they aren't open enough to tell whether they are grey or brown yet. Their fur is a very light cream color, and not white at all if you look at them in comparison to the broken kits on the left. Their uncle was this color too, and the breeder I got the mother from had no clue what to call him. Can you help me out here? What do you call this color and what is it's genetic code?

Mom is a lilac tort and dad is a broken fawn.

Thanks!<br /><br />__________ Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:49 pm __________<br /><br />Please ignore the hairy blanket, the dog sleeps on the couch where the blanket lives!

 

[Sinnfox]

I'd have said chocolate tort but seems way to pale to be that...maybe lilac tort? those are my best guesses

 

[Dood]

They look frosty/ermine to me. which is a torted agouti sable or torted chinchilla

Is there any of these colours in either pedigree?

 

[PSFAngoras]

There is chinchilla ermine in the background, but these guys are very light cream colored, not greyish, does that matter? And what would that look like genetically?

Is there a such thing as a pearl (frosty) tort? Maybe that's what they are? Or is that what your trying to get across and my little blonde brain is having a hard time copeing... <br /><br />__________ Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:05 pm __________<br /><br />Just asking because I have had ermines/sallanders before and they never look that super light cream color, they are always either super light grey or white.

 

[jessie15273]

That is what my pointed black looked like, when they get chilled they look that color, as the color is heat sensitive. Not sure if that is it though lol

 

[Dood]

Pearl is called sable point in other breeds and it can be difficult to tell a sable point from a sable frosty at such a young age. So yes, you can have frosty pearls.

Genetically they'd be = Aa Bb cchl_ Dd ee

Fawn sire = A_ B_ C_ D_ ee

Lilac tort dam = aa bb C_ dd ee

 

[skysthelimit]

Pearl is a strange color for me. In the Hollands, I found certain versions of shaded and tort to be hard to distinguish until they were older. Can't wait to see that wool

 

[PSFAngoras]

I might just go ahead and scrap my meat rabbit project to expand my angoras so I'll have more space to grow kits out longer so I can see their true colors before they leave . They are edible after all, but that means no short furs to tan.

Oh, decisions, decisions.

As far as wool color, the color on these guys' uncle looked basically white. I have basically come to the conclusion that while the angoras come in so many colors, the wool basically only comes in a few major colors with only a few shades difference (like the wool off of a REW compared to the wool these kits will produce) between the colors. I have greys, whites, fawn and chocolate, I think the only think I really need now is a red, and I'll feel complete as far as the colors go!

 

[SarahMelisse]

Looks like ermine to me. It may be un showable, but I really like the color!

 

[Peach]

It is cute