Update on Ill Cali doe, Graphic pics

[Secuono]

Went and put down the worst of the two free Cali does, the one that was suspected to have a retained litter.
What I found was no evidence of any litters at all, in any state of development or re-absorption. Instead, there was a lot of nasty, large growths which contained thick, pure white puss.

What disease would of caused this, any guesses?

She was very meaty, loved the thick loin she had and legs, but I found some bumps on the 'belly flaps' and the growths had attached themselves to the muscles. So I decided to cut it up and freeze for the dogs instead. Cleaned carcase weighed a lot, I really want to know if I can medicate the other doe who has smaller lumps in her gut and possibly save her.

 

[ladysown]

i'd be suspecting pasturella virus causing internal abscesses.

 

[Secuono]

In that case, the other doe will be put down tomorrow along with the buck.


The paperless doe that also came in with these, I don't feel anything off in her. None of these had any snot or sneezing, either. All 4 did have VD. Should I bother keeping her in qt or cull her with the others?

 

[Miss M]

Wow... I've heard Pasteurella can do that. I've never seen it. :shock:

Could be some other infections can do it, too, I don't know.

That's a really extensive case, there. I don't think I would feed it raw to the dogs.

I'd put down the other doe, personally. I wouldn't want this getting to the rest of my herd. <br /><br />__________ Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:33 pm __________<br /><br />I think it would be wise to cull the third doe, as well. I'd be scared to keep any stock that came with this doe and the other one with the smaller lumps.

 

[zee]

I wouldn't feed it raw to the dogs.

 

[Secuono]

Cooked then?

 

[Miss M]

It should be safe for them thoroughly cooked, as that should kill all pathogens.

I seem to remember somebody saying that cooked bones splinter, and shouldn't be fed? Not sure. Maybe debone after cooking?

 

[ladysown]

only feed the meat. ONLY cook the meat after you have removed all abscesses. If it goes through the meat just toss it. Not worth it to feed in that case.

 

[dayna]

I hate wasting animals but in this case I would not feed them to my dogs. Just in case. I would toss them, and sanitize anything they've come in contact with.

I'd be interested to see if the others have internal abscesses as well.

 

[Secuono]

Well, I shouldn't of killed the other doe, or at least possibly not.
She was laced with fat all over on the inside! But she had 5-6 kits in her, their ribs started moving after I took them out to see if they were starting to be reabsorbed. Unfortunately, they looked normal and on schedule to be born in a week....Odd thing was feeling them since the day I got the rabbits...It doesn't add up, no idea what to make of it. Both does had milk easily expressed.
I cleaned up the doe and buck and they are soaking in my fridge. neither had any abscesses, organs all looked fine. Buck had some bloating, but that's all. His bleeding willie isn't something I wanted to keep or sell to someone else. Because the doe was looking fine, I'm keeping that mutt doe to see how she will do. Don't want to pointlessly kill another doe on a hunch... =(

I've got three very large and nice raw pelts to make now and a guilty conscious to try and clear.

 

[ladysown]

you culled in good belief it was the right decision. no guilty conscience needed. DO NOT beat yourself up.

 

[dayna]

Yes, do NOT beat yourself up. You did make the right choice based on the information you have.

 

[Secuono]

Well, all I can think of is that she was too fat or the buck was the issue with getting preggers for the last owner. I was feeding her very little because of how round she looked, yet still, there was fat laced everywhere on the inside.
Is being fat in rabbits genetic?

 

[OneAcreFarm]

Well, all I can think of is that she was too fat or the buck was the issue with getting preggers for the last owner. I was feeding her very little because of how round she looked, yet still, there was fat laced everywhere on the inside.
Is being fat in rabbits genetic?

I think it can be...I sure would not want to propagate that in my herd.

 

[Secuono]

Found the email for the lady I got them from and let her know what went on. Thought she should know, since she had other rabbits next to them at the time.

 

[Miss M]

I still think it was the right decision. Finding obvious signs of illness inside would have been nice confirmation, but I'd have been concerned that she would carry this sickness into my rabbitry after quarantine. I just would not keep any of the rabbits from that batch.

 

[Secuono]

Lady wants to know if Penicillin can be given to a lactating doe?
The buck she gave me escaped with a doe she has right before the Sunday I picked them up. She had a litter. Unfortunately, the lady still thinks the heat caused all the missings, I don't know if she had that doe before to breed to him. But w/e.