Thoughts on what I might get?

[Desert Rose Rabbits]

So, I have an interesting situation... We bred Stewart, our new virgin buck, to Mama for her next litter. After one good tuck and fall, he had no interest in her so I removed her from his cage. A few hours later, I put her back in, and again, no interest. So, just to cover my bases and to try to avoid a false pregnancy my husband suggested putting her in with a more experienced buck. Well, Buck covered her quite nicely. Soooooo, the question remains, is it possible to have a mixed-sire litter? I know it can happen with cats, but what about buns?

 

[PSFAngoras]

I believe so. Since rabbits are induced ovulators, it makes sense that it is possible for some eggs to be fertilized the first go round, and then a few more could be released the second time and be fertilized by the other buck. (unless potentially they only release once, but then more coverings wouldn't result in more kits, which actually proves true for me, so I don't think that is the case).

Anywho, it will be fun to see the difference in size with the upcoming litter if the second buck is a full size rabbit. You may have some half sized kits! And if momma is full sized, theoretically, you shouldn't have to deal with the poor little peanuts.

 

[Desert Rose Rabbits]

I believe so. Since rabbits are induced ovulators, it makes sense that it is possible for some eggs to be fertilized the first go round, and then a few more could be released the second time and be fertilized by the other buck. (unless potentially they only release once, but then more coverings wouldn't result in more kits, which actually proves true for me, so I don't think that is the case).

Anywho, it will be fun to see the difference in size with the upcoming litter if the second buck is a full size rabbit. You may have some half sized kits! And if momma is full sized, theoretically, you shouldn't have to deal with the poor little peanuts.

Mom is a full sized doe.. possibly Rex/Californian and the two boys are a Mini Rex and Standard Satin. If any come up Magpie, we know hwo dad is, but the verdict is out on everyone else.

 

[huntress86]

Rabbits have a bifurcated uterus which means that they can carry two different litters of different ages in the "horns" of their uterus. Soooo honestly it is quite possible to pop out different kits of different colors. Hence why some people don't recommend the old fashioned way of telling if a doe is pregnant by tossing her in with a buck at 14 days, because she could lift for him and be pregnant with two different litters. It's crazy, I know lol.

 

[PSFAngoras]

Actually, from everything I've read on RT, that is really a very rare occurrence, and if it were to happen, the doe will abort the fetuses of the younger litter when she has the older. If the ages are only a day or so apart, it's possible for all to survive, but rare.

The difference in size I was talking about is not due to age, but simply the fact that one father carries the dwarf gene, and one does not. Although the mini rex may still father kits that aren't dwarfs due to the fact that dwarfs carry only one copy of the gene. (Two copies equals a peanut, which are unable to grow and die a short time after birth.) That just goes to show that if the kit is born a dwarf, you can pinpoint who is the father. If it's not a dwarf, it's anyone's guess. And you might still see magpies with the other buck if he's hiding those genes (both the chinchilla gene and the harlequin gene can be hidden by more dominant genes). If your mini Rex is a broken and your other buck is not, that will also show paternity, as that is a gene that is not able to be hidden.

And does will carry most of their litters in both uterus horns, not just one. If you've ever had to dispatch a pregnant doe, (or did so by accident when the previous owner told you they weren't bred when they were) you will usually find fetuses in both horns.

 

[Desert Rose Rabbits]

Actually, from everything I've read on RT, that is really a very rare occurrence, and if it were to happen, the doe will abort the fetuses of the younger litter when she has the older. If the ages are only a day or so apart, it's possible for all to survive, but rare.

The difference in size I was talking about is not due to age, but simply the fact that one father carries the dwarf gene, and one does not. Although the mini rex may still father kits that aren't dwarfs due to the fact that dwarfs carry only one copy of the gene. (Two copies equals a peanut, which are unable to grow and die a short time after birth.) That just goes to show that if the kit is born a dwarf, you can pinpoint who is the father. If it's not a dwarf, it's anyone's guess. And you might still see magpies with the other buck if he's hiding those genes (both the chinchilla gene and the harlequin gene can be hidden by more dominant genes). If your mini Rex is a broken and your other buck is not, that will also show paternity, as that is a gene that is not able to be hidden.

And does will carry most of their litters in both uterus horns, not just one. If you've ever had to dispatch a pregnant doe, (or did so by accident when the previous owner told you they weren't bred when they were) you will usually find fetuses in both horns.

Question... are Mini Rexes dwarfs, or are they literally just miniature versions of the original Rex, but bred down for size?



My mini rex is a 'broken' magpie in that he shows magpie markings but not properly. For example, he has one ear that is black/grey but he has no color on his face but has sparse magpie markings on his body. My other buck is a REW satin. In previous litters with this doe (broken chestnut) that he cross covered with Stewart, he has produced self black, broken black, broken chestnut, and solid agouti (chestnut?).

 

[Dood]

Question... are Mini Rexes dwarfs, or are they literally just miniature versions of the original Rex, but bred down for size?

Yes to both They are bred down rex BUT they can carry a dwarf gene. However, not all do and are called false dwarfs, these tend to have longer ears and are bigger than true dwarfs but in Mini Rex it can be hard to tell who has the gene.

is it possible to have a mixed-sire litter?

Yes, the same litter can have two (or more) fathers if they covered the doe around the same time.

 

[PSFAngoras]

Well, If mom is not broken and your getting broke a, then your satin buck is hiding broken, so you won't know who papa is!

Oh well, it sounds like this is a meat/pet breeding to me, so you probably aren't going to be as strict about pedigrees as I am!

 

[Desert Rose Rabbits]

Well, If mom is not broken and your getting broke a, then your satin buck is hiding broken, so you won't know who papa is!

Oh well, it sounds like this is a meat/pet breeding to me, so you probably aren't going to be as strict about pedigrees as I am!

Yeah, mom is broken, these guys are just meat buns. Figured I might as well have fun with them, though, since I'm holding onto pelts. I want to make a pair of house slippers for my Nana so I'll be growing a few of them out and figured I'd play with color and coat patterns a bit.