Strange color on kit

[Wingfire1]

I have a doe kit that has pink eyes and a broken pattern that looks like a really faded out chinchilla, very defined banding on the hairs. I couldn't get a good picture, but the banding is there on the ends.

Anybody come across this before? She is a result of a litter that I didn't take away from their mother in time. Her grandsire is a black Magpie, sire/half brother is a broken black. They might carry chocolate. Dam/grand dam is broken himi something. I don't think she is black, looks more faded, maybe a seal? Never been real sure of her color. Sorry for the bad photo quality.

Thanks

 

[skysthelimit]

With a black sire and himi mother, she cannot be Seal. It takes two shaded genes o produce a seal, himi can't carry a shaded gene.

 

[Dood]

The himalayan colouring, along with red eyed white and blue eyed white, hide a rabbits true genetic colour with a white coat

In the case of himalayans we can get an idea of their colour genetics from their points

In this rabbit I see - agouti, black, himilayan, not dilute

Now for the trickier part :mrgreen: it could be the broken gene creating the irregular makings but I wonder if the harequin gene has any effect on pigment in himilayan rabbits :hmm:

 

[skysthelimit]

Himalayan should be self based, it's a self rabbit where the color is restricted to the cooler extremities, not a masking gene like rew or bew. But it's possible that the original himi was actually a himi marked agouti, which would explain the marking. I just culled a pearl agouti Angora. As a kit, he looked like blue pearl, as he got older, the agouti ticking gave it away.

 

[Wingfire1]

You got me thinking, there was a Magpie buck in the crew that could have been the guilty party. Miracle the mother, has a sister (named sister cuz I couldn't think of anything else) who is broken black that I bred to a harlequinized chinchilla and got some beautiful colors out of. one of those is a chocolate Magpie Himi that I'll have to get pictures of later today.

Everytime I think I have a decent grasp of the genetics I get something else it throws me for a loop. it's a good I like rainbow letters or I'd really be in trouble lol.

 

[Zass]

I've never seen a magpie-himi before. Never even thought about what that might look like.
opcorn:

 

[skysthelimit]

I've never seen a magpie-himi before. Never even thought about what that might look like.
opcorn:

My latest group of Rex kits are from a Chin to Cal. They have points, darker noses, ears and feet. It won't make a big difference with the chins, but it's noticeable. Probably the same for Magpies, dark points.

 

[Wingfire1]

Here is my Magpie himi doe. Most of the time it's harder to see the Harli influence on the himi kits as it takes awhile for the markings to separate.

 

[Dood]

:twilightzone: So cool !

And you've test bred him to prove out the harlequin gene ?

 

[Wingfire1]

You can actually see it on his face. Bred to a tri color doe I got tri color, harli and aguti.