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Okay... I think I know what is causing this, and I think there is nothing I can do about it. But I wanted to ask anyway, just in case.

Of the four French Black Copper Marans chicks I bought in January, one of them has grown up into a fine young rooster. Actually, I went to buy two, and ended up with two free ones from yard eggs (she gave them to me, because she couldn't sell them pedigreed... she knew their mother was one of three French Black Copper Marans, but didn't know which). Anyway, he started trying his pipes out a few weeks ago, and can now crow pretty well, albeit in a lower key than the neighboring roosters use, and still a little hoarse. He's getting there, though. :D

Backing up a little... when we first added the new chicken coop/run to the rabbitry, and cut the door into the rabbitry, the very next morning one neighbor's free-range rooster was right there on the other side of the wire from all of our young girls, all of whom were still too young to start laying. That didn't stop him from showing off big time, trying hard to woo them.

Here he is outside the run in the morning light, looking like he's auditioning for the Corn Flakes box:

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Close-up:

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As you can see, he's quite showy... a gorgeous rooster. He's a Kelso, the last one left of a line of fighting roosters the neighbor's father raised before it was illegal to fight them. He spends his days over here now, and has ever since we opened up the run. :roll: He does not have access to our chickens, but that doesn't stop him. He'll run home to check on his own harem occasionally, and then he's right back. One of his hens joined him for a couple of weeks, but she hasn't been over in a long time.

We call him Fancy Pants.

As for our rooster, his name is Galaxy:

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The picture doesn't do him justice, as the light ended up all out of whack (as you can see, Bunny-Wan Kenobi looks like he's glowing). He's a slightly iridescent black, and he's starting to get his copper in. If I recall correctly, he hatched on December 22nd.

So anyway, Fancy thinks the girls are his, even though he has no access, and Galaxy is very young, but understands that these are his girls. I know that they fight through the wire sometimes, as my beloved Shay looked out the window recently to see Fancy flopping around on the ground, his spurs caught in the wire. He said Fancy was pretty foolish looking, and I can only imagine! :lol: Fancy got himself unstuck... there was no way Shay was going to try to free a hormonal rooster, even though he follows us around like a puppy the rest of the time.

I have also witnessed lesser squabbles between them through the wire, and they last only briefly -- they get broken up when one of the girls pounces on Galaxy as if to say, "Cut that fighting out!"

Here is a picture of the run, with Galaxy inside with the girls (he's in front, next to the water bottle), and you can see Fancy outside. There is 2"x4" wire around the run, with chicken wire inside of the lower part.

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The issue is that Galaxy has raw skin on his legs. I think it's from fighting through the wire. I think the feathered shanks and feet contribute to the problem. Sometimes it looks more red, sometimes less.

Left leg (you can see one of his little button spurs :lol: ):

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Right leg:

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I don't know what I would do to prevent this... I don't think there's really anything I can do. But does it seem that this is probably what is causing the issue?
 
Miss M":1bth9j7n said:
he started trying his pipes out a few weeks ago, and can now crow pretty well, albeit in a lower key than the neighboring roosters use, and still a little hoarse. He's getting there, though. :D

They sound so funny when they first start crowing! :lol:

Miss M":1bth9j7n said:
Here he is outside the run in the morning light, looking like he's auditioning for the Corn Flakes box:

I thought he was "yard art"- he looks like a metal statue!

Miss M":1bth9j7n said:
He'll run home to check on his own harem occasionally, and then he's right back.

How irresponsible of him! Tsk!

Miss M":1bth9j7n said:
I know that they fight through the wire sometimes... But does it seem that this is probably what is causing the issue?

I doubt it. I see that you have chicken wire on the inside of the run, and that is too small for his feet to fit through. When roos fight, the leap into the air and angle their legs up so the spurs are forward. If the redness was on the back of the legs I might agree, but he wouldn't be hitting the wire with the front of the legs.

I'm not sure what the cause is, but it seems that the feather follicles are inflamed. Maybe it is mites or a fungal infection. I would put some Nu-Stock on it.
 
MamaSheepdog":33yoktk5 said:
I'm not sure what the cause is, but it seems that the feather follicles are inflamed. Maybe it is mites or a fungal infection. I would put some Nu-Stock on it.
:yeahthat:

Do you have DE? I've been told repeatedly I should always keep some in my chicken yard. I never do, but it's supposed to be helpful for everything that ails 'em...
 
RJSchaefer":12tl50cy said:
I've been told repeatedly I should always keep some in my chicken yard.

DE is the greatest!

If you provide a pile of it where they dust bathe, they will self treat. :)
 
MamaSheepdog":3vihdbyo said:
They sound so funny when they first start crowing! :lol:
At least he doesn't sound like a big toad anymore, like he did at first! :lol:

MamaSheepdog":3vihdbyo said:
I thought he was "yard art"- he looks like a metal statue!
You're right, he does! :p I hadn't thought of it before!

MamaSheepdog":3vihdbyo said:
I'm not sure what the cause is, but it seems that the feather follicles are inflamed. Maybe it is mites or a fungal infection. I would put some Nu-Stock on it.
Okay, your explanation of the way they fight makes sense. I've looked for Nu-Stock and Blu-Kote, but haven't seen either yet. Vetericyn has been out of my price range, so I've been making do. There is another feed store... I don't think I've looked for meds there. I'll look tomorrow, when I'll be out that way. :)

RJSchaefer":3vihdbyo said:
Do you have DE? I've been told repeatedly I should always keep some in my chicken yard. I never do, but it's supposed to be helpful for everything that ails 'em...
I do have DE. I did dust them a few days ago (DE, sieve, shake over chicken trying to elude you), but I don't know that it makes it to his legs. Maybe I'll dust his legs, and put some more out in the rabbitry and the run.

MamaSheepdog":3vihdbyo said:
If you provide a pile of it where they dust bathe, they will self treat. :)
They dust bathe everywhere in the rabbitry and run. :roll: I walked into the rabbitry a few minutes ago, and the four youngest were wallowing just inside the door! So... that's about 8 * 24 + 3 * 8 + 11 * 8 = 304 square feet they have to bathe in.<br /><br />__________ Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:32 pm __________<br /><br />Thank y'all! :p I really appreciate it! I was not happy at the idea of perpetually inflamed skin. :( I wondered if the feathered shanks were going to be a problem, but I wanted chickeny variety, and that's what I could find at the time. They're fun... just wish they'd been the English style instead of the French style, as the English Marans don't have feathered legs and feet.

We're up to 6 eggs a day, and I think the third girl Marans started laying yesterday. Found a small, light brown egg with lots of dark dots on it. :p Can't wait for the other four to start laying, too!
 
Regarding the fighting... It might decrease a lot if you had shade cloth or burlap over the lower parts. Usually if the roosters cannot see each other, they tend to be more tolerant. Just a thought.
 
MaggieJ":4ssjj9z6 said:
Regarding the fighting... It might decrease a lot if you had shade cloth or burlap over the lower parts. Usually if the roosters cannot see each other, they tend to be more tolerant.

Great idea!
 
MaggieJ":3eeg0plw said:
Regarding the fighting... It might decrease a lot if you had shade cloth or burlap over the lower parts. Usually if the roosters cannot see each other, they tend to be more tolerant. Just a thought.
Hmmmmm... I will give this some thought. Thank you! :)
 
Look closely at his sore spots and check for raised up scales on his legs. That's a sure sign of mites.

I would use DE for sure, and if you can't find Nu-Stock or Blu-Kote, rub his legs with some vaseline where the feathers are gone.
 
Okay, thanks, Marinea! We're leaving shortly to try to find those meds.

I can use DE with those other things?

Will I see "scales" on his legs, even with the feathers? I hadn't looked that close.
 
I would sprinkle DE in the run and in their pen, and in nest boxes. I would use meds on the rooster- he needs more help than DE can give right now.

How to explain what I mean by scales...look at the pic above of the rooster's feet. See the little diamond shaped scales? Sort of like a fish's scales? Mites get down in there and the edges raise up, making it look like his skin is peeling. You should be able to see any issues if you part the feathers.
 
Okay, I see what you mean! :) Will do! Sure hope I can find some of that stuff!

__________ Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:22 pm __________

Okay, I snowed DE on the entire floor of the rabbitry and chicken area.

I did find some Nu-Stock (and Blu-Kote, but I got the Nu-Stock) at the other feed store. They told me to wear gloves, because the stuff stinks. Well, it is strong stuff, but I don't mind medicinal smells. I'm still glad I used a glove on the hand I applied with... should probably have used them on both hands. :roll:

I tried to look for scale edges turning up, but Galaxy wasn't pleased about his (tender, I imagine) legs being messed with. He was especially unhappy a moment after I slathered on the Nu-Stock. With its ingredients, I think I would expect it to burn.

It says to apply every three days. How do I know when to stop?
 
This is what a friend of mine does for her flock if they show evidence of mites, YMMV. Nu-Stock: one application that's really worked in. You should immediate relief by the next day. When the old scales slough off there should be new scales in their place.
 
The new scales will look rawish, kinda like new skin after a sunburn. I would give it a day or two and see if it looks better, then go from there.
 
Marinea":1wh8k7ej said:
The new scales will look rawish, kinda like new skin after a sunburn. I would give it a day or two and see if it looks better, then go from there.
Ooooh, okay! Thank you!<br /><br />__________ Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:13 am __________<br /><br />
Jack":1wh8k7ej said:
Where can you get DE cheaply?
Yep, I got mine at the feed store. By the pound, I think it was about $1.45. I could get a 50-pound bag cheaper (I think about $30), but not doing that yet.
 

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