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akane

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I'll get pics later. I turned off the heat yesterday so I could open the window because the house was getting too warm and my husband forgot to turn it back on so it's like 60F in here. I'm not getting out of my blankets until it warms up. :lol:

So I was breeding sable netherlands. I had 2 sable does, 1 seal doe, 1 blue carrying rew, and 1 sable marten in the same pen with a sable buck carrying himi and nonextension. I don't know which litter came from which doe except when there was only 1 litter in there and they had an obvious kit like a marten which meant the litter had to be out of the sable marten or a black or blue which meant the litter had to be from the blue. Most of the time there were 2 or 3 litters at once that all got mixed. I kept what looks to be a sable point buck when I gave away most of my netherlands.

Then my broken castor mini rex doe carrying self and dilute got bred by a seal american sable carrying nonextension and I kept a broken black doe.

I put these 2 in a hutch in the house months ago. I was beginning to wonder if the broken black was actually a buck when last night my husband found kits in the house area.

The kits are all weird colored though. There's 1 plain black that makes sense, 1 broken black with a pink belly, and 2 silver top, pink bellied kits. The last 2 are the most confusing. Could my sable point be from the marten doe and not show it? Then the kits would be expressing the at gene. The silver could be a recessive C locus gene since it's very unlikely either rabbit carries chocolate to make lilac. It's even unlikely they carry dilute.

Would that explain the colors?
 
The two odd ones can only be sable as himilayan or REW are more obvious.

It is highly unlikely they have the dark sable/chinchilla (and hence are Sallanders) since you should have seen sallander kits before.

A self rabbit cannot hide the tan gene as it is dominant to self so that is not a possibility. The buck would have white eye rings and look martenized

Sable point buck = aa B_ cchl_ D_ ee

Broken black doe = aa B_ Ccchl D_ E_
 
Maybe they are just all booted/minimally marked brokens....

Doe
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Buck
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Litter

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Now whether they sell or not determines if I keep the doe and the effort that goes with maintaining the hutch with a medium sized doe plus litter living alongside the small buck it was intended for or get rid of her and only have 2 netherland bucks to take care of. Rabbits are so messy. The hedgehogs and chinchillas are far easier to care for. Especially since they can be put on fleece that is just thrown in the washer instead of bedding that gets everywhere or dumping pans under wire. They also don't spray the walls in urine. The spare bedroom that I converted from rabbit to hedgehog space has stained walls all the way around and I keep finding shavings or poop behind and under stuff as I clean it out and replace the cages.<br /><br />__________ Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:45 pm __________<br /><br />Well 2 died, reasons unknown. One looked perfectly fine and one had a bloated neck area. I would have investigated what it was but the kit smelled horrible and I just wanted to get it out of the house.

Here are the remaining kits
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He is looking more like Siamese Sables than Sable Points, the only difference is the SS have a full extension gene while the SP have two non- extension.
 
We don't know if the broken doe got the nonextension gene or not. It was only carried by one parent. I really wish I had the space to keep my sable point american sable doe. I wanted to work with that color in the american sable lines but I didn't want a big rabbit in the house to clean up after. I sold the nonextension carrying buck and gave away the sable point doe. The person I got them from said he'd set me up again when my health is better and we have a house with land. It's a crap shoot if I'll ever see nonextension in any other american sables though.<br /><br />__________ Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:21 pm __________<br /><br />Weaned broken sable. I thought it was a buck but now I'm leaning towards doe. Either way someone's picking it up soon.







 
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